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90-T Questions for GunDr

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by rawhohusaglocol, Nov 3, 2012.

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  1. rawhohusaglocol

    rawhohusaglocol Member

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    Doug,

    If you're reading this thread, at your convenience, please respond to the following 90-T questions that many of us would like to have answers to (Any one else's input would be appreciated as well):

    1. Was the 90-T design a joint venture between Remington and Kolar or just one of these companies?

    2. Who did the adjustable combs?

    3. Who provided the wood for the stocks and fore arms?

    4. How many 90-T's were made?

    5. How many were HPAR's?

    6. Were any of the guns made for lefties?

    7. Why did they stop production?

    8. Explain how the adjustable rib on the HPAR works for POI?

    9. What does "90-T" signify if anything?

    Any and all responses are welcome. Any other pertinent information is appreciated! Thanks in advance for taking the time!

    John
     
  2. ILClaysshooter01

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    1. I believe Remington lic. Kolar Arms in WI to mfg the gun.

    2. The guns were all custom order so Kolar good provide a adjustable comp.

    3. I believe Fajen provided the wood and Kolar may have made the stock.

    4. Approx. 3,800 to 4,000 were made.

    5. Don't know.

    6. Don't know.

    7. Like a lot of fine guns made in the US they were to costly to make and sell.

    8. I believe they have 4 adjustment points. Ask Doug.

    9. I believe production started in 1990 and T is for trap.

    10. I hope this helps. It's a great gun.
     
  3. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    rawhohusaglocol:

    What follows was posted on ts.c by Mr. Braker July 6, 2009.

    The original paragraph breaks were lost when I cut the text from the original ts.c thread and saved it as a Word doc. I took a shot at recreating them to make reading easier. Otherwise, the text is exactly what Mr. Braker posted in 2009.

    sissy

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    It's been a while, but I'll try to recall some numbers during production. About 3800 guns were produced. I know definitely there were no serial numbers over 4000.

    The production serial numbers started with ST00100. There are a few guns less than that, but they were all special orders, and not all of them had "real" numbers. Some of the "numbers" had the owners initials as part of the serial number, some had birthdates, some had wedding dates. All of the guns produced were produced with the same quality, from start to finish. True, there were some changes..... Maybe to serial number 1200-ish, the bores were larger, around .747"-.755". This was impart because Remington furnished the blanks already hammer forged to .745". With consecutive bbl shipments, they kept tightening them up at our (Kolar Arms) request. Eventually, we were able to provide a finished bore at .742"-.745", with about .033" choke. The hi-rib adjustable 90-T had tighter bores from the start...738" with .040" choke.


    A mechanical change took place around serial number 2600, give or take 150. This change was to replace the 10 degree angle of the locking bolt and the lugs on the bbl to 8 degrees. The 10 degree angle definitely gave the life of the bolt maybe 40k rounds, but at 20k or so, it would no longer hold itself to the bbl lugs, and it would want to pop out of the lugs during a shot.(the top lever would move). With the 8 degree angle it would not. This may have shortened the life a bit, but still, 30k-35k is still a lot of shooting. Most all break-open guns are that anyway.

    The forend update you may hear or read about from me was never done to any gun during production. I started doing them while I was still at Kolar, but it was 2 years after the end of production. The angled little "shoe" was/is the weak link in the gun. I was replacing some as many as 2-3 times a year on the same gun. The update did away with the sharp angles, and allows the new insert to freely position itself behinf the lug on the bbl squarely.

    As for the wood, the early guns had nice figure with "kind-of" an orange(y) color. As more shipments arrived, the finish darkened up to a more uniform brown. This was to help us not to spend so much time matching buttstocks to forends. The wood was furnished by Reinhart Fajen.

    There were 4 options for wood dimensions.... #1...1-1/4" MC #2...1-3/8" MC #3...1-1/2" MC #4...1-1/2" straight comb All of the hi rib guns had an adjustable stock. Early production guns could be had as special orders, with many options...adj combs, adj pads, porting, choke tubes(Kolar tubes), extra triggers, release triggers, extra bbls(including a few 32" bbls). I belive it was 1991 that 50 guns were produced for the ATA, one for each state. They had a little engraving on them, including the shape of the corresponding state on one sideplate and the ATA logo on the other. I don't recall how they were serialized (maybe someone may have one and could fill this part in).

    Not all of the "state" guns were sold, and they were sent back to Remington and parted out. During the big regime change at Remington, the employees were able to piece guns back together and purchase any firearm that was still available in the warehouse. So, some of those parted out "state" guns got put back into circualation, but with mis-matched parts. I hope this helps fill in any holes to the 90-T lovers (I love my 90-T).

    Doug Braker
     
  4. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    If anyone is interested, I also have Mr. Braker's instructions for converting a 90-T from eject to extract.

    sissy
     
  5. rawhohusaglocol

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    @ILClaysshooter01: Thanks for the input!
     
  6. rawhohusaglocol

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    @Recoil Sissy: Thanks for taking the time to post very informative information!
     
  7. cubancigar2000

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    John, check your email
     
  8. rawhohusaglocol

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    @cubancigar2000: Thanks for the manual and all the other excellent information!
     
  9. bdm4_21

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    I just traded for a 90t hpar. How do I tell if it has had or needs the updates?
     
  10. rawhohusaglocol

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    @RENOSTEVE: Thank you!
     
  11. PatMiles

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    In answer to how the ATA Hall Of Fame State guns were serialized, I believe the serial numbers were according to which state entered the United States and the abbreviation for the state. Delaware would be serial number 01 DE, Pennsylvania 02 PA, etc.

    Pat
     
  12. spitter

    spitter Well-Known Member TS Supporters

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    BDM4... sent you a PM

    Jay
     
  13. rawhohusaglocol

    rawhohusaglocol Member

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    @PatMiles: Thanks!!!
     
  14. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    bdm4_21

    The first photo is a forearm that has been updated. I copied it from Mr. Braker's website.




    recoilsissy_2008_0303_162.jpg



    The photo below is the forearm of a new high rib that hasn't been updated.



    recoilsissy_2008_0303_163.jpg


    The other update concerns the locking lug. You don't need to concern yourself with it unless or until your gun pops open under the recoil of a shot.

    sissy
     
  15. rawhohusaglocol

    rawhohusaglocol Member

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    @Recoil Sissy: Thanks for the images!
     
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