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700X 1 1/4 Loads With WAA12F Wads?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Shooting Coach, Feb 24, 2008.

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  1. Shooting Coach

    Shooting Coach Well-Known Member

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    700X is pretty fast for any usable loads with so much shot. What are you wanting to do with 1 1/4 oz of shot?
     
  2. miketmx

    miketmx Well-Known Member

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    I would never ever use 700X for 1 1/4 oz loads; it is way too fast burning and would have dangerous pressures. Follow the published manuals for all components, hulls, primers, powder wads and shot and use a scale.
     
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    if you are wanting use the 1 1/4 ounce wad to have more room in your hull, just use the wad as you would a regular AA, I have to use the shorter wad with the new HS hulls. No problem to switch...Fred
     
  5. superxjeff

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    800x is fine for 1 1/4 loads but 4756,green dot,unique are also good choices and 800x is a bitch to meter. Jeff
     
  6. Jawhawker

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    MGM, there was an old load I used that was a published listing that used the Federal paper case, SP12 wad, and 1 1/4 oz. I see if I can find it but as others have stated 800X would be alot better or 4756 the best.
     
  7. superxjeff

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    Martin, I have a bunch of 4756 if you want some. I have 5 of the 5 pound steel cans I want to sell. I will make somebody a deal if they take it all! Jeff sx1jeff@yahoo.com
     
  8. BL350

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    Dear MGM,
    Do not use 700X with 1 1/4 oz. of shot. NOT a recommended load anywhere! Dangerous load in my humble opinion. Try 28.5 grains of Longshot powder. Very safe pressure level with your wad and 1 1/4 oz. of 6's. Recoil is substantial!1 So is muzzle blast!! But 7 1/2 Magnum hard shot will pattern better and break a target @ 70 yards. (If you can calculate the proper lead!)
    Respectfully,
    Jet Boat Bill
     
  9. Dr.Longshot

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    Super-X Jeff how much for all 5 cans.
    E-mail me the information
    Gary Bryant
    Dr.longshot
     
  10. leadspreader

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    I have done some experimenting with the waa12f wad and I have found that it is the same size as the orange western wad and I use it to load 11/8 in a paper federal. As for loading 700x in an 11/4 load sounds pretty risky to me. I also use 4756 for 11/4 loads which in moderation provides a very nice 11/4 load. low pressure and fairly light recoil as far as a field load goes.
     
  11. tcr1146

    tcr1146 Well-Known Member

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    I have to reinforce what Jeff said about 800x! Absolutely the worst metering powder I ever found or used! I am talking major short drops! Tom Rhoads
     
  12. BL350

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    Dear Mr. Charles,
    MGM asked for data using a WAAF114 wad, 700X powder. He did not state what hull he was going to put it in. I ASSUMED that he would be putting this wad into its intended case, a tapered internal style plastic case (AA or STS). You furnished data for a different wad in a straight walled case. I will stand on my statement, DO NOT USE 700X with the WAAF114 wad. I found your data in an old 1975-76 Dupont loading guide under Field Loads using straight wall cases with straight side REMINGTON wads. I could not find this data in the present IMR/Hodgdon web site for 1 1/4 oz. and the WAAF114 wad
    Respectfully submitted,
    Jet Boat Bill
     
  13. alfermann66

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    I'm sure you guys have MGM's best interest at heart, but I see a lot of advice on here that is at variance with the facts. DuPont Handloaders Guide 1975-76; Rem. RXP/Rem. 97/ 20.0gr. 700X/ Rem. PPW29928 wad/ 1 1/4 shot/ 1210fps/10400LUP, Fed. Hi-Power (alias Wally Bullet, alias Top-Gun)/Fed.399/21gr 700X/Rem PPW29928 wad/1 1/4 shot/1220fps/10100LUP,Fed.Paper/Fed.399/21gr.700X/Rem. PPW29928 wad/1 1/4 shot/1210fps/9900LUP.

    Buz
     
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