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65% Income Tax Hike Inevitable for IL!

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Luckyman, Jan 12, 2011.

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  1. Luckyman

    Luckyman Active Member

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    Where are we moving to? I'm thinking down South...They are very gun friendly as well as income tax friendly....Give me my money and my guns and stay out of my way...Maybe Texas....Austin and San Antonio are beautiful!

    IL will wind up like Detroit when the Dems are done with it! You see what Detroit is like? Unions and Democrats suck the money and life out of everything they touch and they both feed each other while they starve everyone and everything around them....Like leaches!!! Taking out of the system and never putting back!!! Remember the majority of this tax hike is for education right! Got to keep the underfunded pension coffers full at the expense of the taxpayer...All for a sub par product.....Remember we spend more on education than any other country in the world and we continue to lag behind...Wonder why? Unions make everything cost more while the product or service they produce declines! They killed manufacturing in the United States and they are killing the Education System slowly but surely year after year as well as everything else they are involved with!!! What an F-N Joke!!!!
     
  2. GoldEx

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    Rep. Roger Eddy from of IL sums it up pretty good.....

    "We're saying to the people of Illinois, For eight years we've overspent, now we're going to make it your problem". "We're making up for our mistakes on your back."

    Typical tax and spend governmental Bull**it! THis time though it's spend and tax.

    Jeff
     
  3. W.P.T.

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    Someone has to pay for the Politico's spending spree's ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  4. ShootinSue

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    Politics as usual here in Illinois and we have had enough..... We are with Luckyman, hope Texas has enough room for all of us.........

    Sue
     
  5. gspointer

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    Get everybody together in that damn state and vote em out. Seems like the corrupt cities and states have a way of votes going their way though(usually dems). And don't think for a second the taxes will ever go back down like they say the plan is. They will need more tax dollars for thier projects, buracracy, and union friends. If you can't get em out of office moving may be the way to go.
     
  6. colonel klink

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    Quinn tried to pass this stuff before the election with no luck. The elected/chosen ones were not about to go for it then. Now that they are back in office they all fell in line. Quinn made no secret of what he wanted to do & still the morons in this state put him back in office. Illinois politics.
    Two more years & I'm out of here when I retire. They also raised the corporate tax to the highest in the country. Now why would you want to open a business here? Colonel
     
  7. daddiooo

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    Too many folks on the dole over there in Illinois. Voters keep electing the Chicago political machine douchebags. Hope you're happy with it now.
    Time to pay for all the "fun" times the politicians had with your money.


    Illinois and California.......don't you dare ask the federal government and taxpayers to bail your butts out of this. We weren't invited to the party to begin with and we sure as hell ain't gonna' pony up now.

    Good luck being broke.
     
  8. grunt

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    Who are they going to tax when everyone leaves the state. That the way Californias going.
     
  9. John55

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    The big problem here in IL. is that the majority of the population is centered around Chicago and the counties across the river from St. Louis. The bulk of the state is very rural, conservative and mostly Republican, much like a number of states that are unfortunate enough to have a big city within their borders. Look at Colorado and all of the growth up and down the eastern slope. Folks I have spoken with from upstate NY aren't real happy about having NYC sucking all their money away either! Us rural folks are screwed because our votes never add up in statewide elections. In 2008 and again this past fall, the four county area I am in went Republican on every ballot, yet they lost in all except the senate race for Obama's old seat. How we managed to get that one is still a mystery!
     
  10. Lyle

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    Luckyman,
    If you went to school before 1990 I would say that your generalization of the education system in the United States is off base. Schools have never been more accoutable for the product they produce than they are today. Also, the amount of information students are presented with is well beyond what was expected in decades past.



    Lyle
     
  11. Luckyman

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    Allot of good it got us! WTF!!!! How did Quinn get elected????? He said from the beginning he was going to raise taxes!! Crook County gets these morons elected and is the most corrupt county in the United States...In bed with all the Unions etc..etc...It makes me absolutely sick!!!!! Our gas is the highest in the country! Our budget deficits are the highest in the country and now our taxes both personal and corporate!!!! They even pulled an all night session passing it at 1:00 AM to make sure they had the votes before the new reps took office this week!!!!! Look at Detroit now and that is IL within the next 10 years!!! God help us all!!

    I am going to start looking at San Antonio or Austin...Unfortunately this place is dying a slow death right in front of our noses....Like I said in the opening thread Democrats and Unions deteriorate everything they come in contact with and IL is just another example...Why can't we learn from history? See what has happened in other states? Why don't we learn from history??? And politicians these days are considering more personal security??? I wonder why?
     
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    Luckyman, If you went to school before 1990 I would say that your generalization of the education system in the United States is off base. Schools have never been more accoutable for the product they produce than they are today. Also, the amount of information students are presented with is well beyond what was expected in decades past.


    Lyle


    What the hell have you been smoking ???????????
     
  13. John55

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    If schools today are more accountable, and supposedly turning out a better product, ie a more intelligent and well read student, I don't seem to see it. They are good at getting big grants from the state to build new schools...
    Couple more years and I'll get out of here too as I'm tired of my vote not counting and just living in the one state left in the union that doesn't allow CC.
     
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    Personally, I think the worst thing you can do to a kid, is to send em to a government school.

    Luckyman, good luck on your escape. I hope you make it, and it lasts. I hope I'm wrong, but I believe there is no place left to hide in this country. I wonder how long Texas will remain a "red" state? They are on the front line of the Mexican invasion, and they are coming through.

    I'm afraid of what's in store for my Hoosier state. People will leave Chicago and move across the state line to Indiana, but they will still vote the same way they did in Chitown.
     
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    Come to Indiana-we're very gun friendly.NW Indiana is still very close to Chicago if you need to do business there-hey it's a win win.
     
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    The only problem with folks moving from one place to another is the fact, they always have to tell you how they did it back home. If they liked it so well, I for one, wish they would move back. I don't what my state hosed up like the one they left.

    Ill has been a hot bed for bloodsucking, lying, backstabbing, folks that have to wipe after they speak, for almost a 100years. Now it's time to pay up, please stay an clean up after your selfs.

    Kenneth
     
  17. hmb

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    They are raising the tax from 3 percent to 5 percent, is that right? HMB
     
  18. halfmile

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    Simplified Illinois tax return:

    1. How much did you make last year?

    2. Send it in.


    HM
     
  19. rustygun

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    I'm with KRE.
    If you move to Texas don't expect open arms,I moved here in the late 70's and was told by a job foreman, the only thing I hate more than a Mexican with a knife is a Yankee with a U-haul. I also watched him fire a carpenter for saying, "That's not the way we do it in Minneapolis." He wasn't in the minority of the natives I met. It took a while but certainly made a lot of friends over the years.
    I love it here, You could not pay me enough to leave, but try not to turn it into Illinois. There isn't a whole lot of trapshooting in Texas (league shooting in particular) compared to the midwest, and what there is is more expensive than you are used to. There is no income tax, but property taxes may surprise you in some of the larger cities.
     
  20. stokinpls

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    "Get everybody together in that damn state and vote em out."

    Not a single Republican in the Senate voted for this tax increase, 30-29. In the House, 4 Republicans voted for it, 60-57.

    From the Peoria Journal Star (another Lib-Socialist Rag)

    "At the end of the day, on the slimmest of majorities - 60-57 in the House, 30-29 in the Senate - in votes that went down to the wire, here's the damage:

    Individual income taxes will rise from 3 to 5 percent before dropping to 3.75 percent in four years. The business income tax will jump from 4.8 to 7 percent before falling back to 5.25 percent in 2015. It's better than the previous proposal that advocated a 75 percent climb in both rates and would have made the privilege of making and selling things in Illinois the most expensive from sea to shining sea, but not by much.

    Ultimately the Legislature passed on a cigarette tax to help fund schools, took a swing and missed on property tax relief, avoided borrowing nearly $9 billion to make good on its unpaid bills - though it will get a loan of almost $4 billion to make its pension payments - opted out of a major gambling expansion and dodged workers' compensation reform.

    However, somehow legislators did manage to double their spending cap, to 2 percent from the 1 percent that was being bandied about last week. Alas, this is a state government with a $15 billion deficit, maybe more. As such it should be looking for ways to cut spending, no other options available. Don't count on it.

    This tax increase will raise about $6.8 billion annually, not even halfway to its deficit reduction target. As we said, no reason for any ticker-tape parades here, no matter how "successful" House Speaker Michael Madigan says this session was."
     
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