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54 sheriffs plan to file lawsuit in CO re gun laws

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Stl Flyn, May 17, 2013.

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  1. Stl Flyn

    Stl Flyn Well-Known Member

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    Now is this the sale of these magazines, or the current holders use of these magazines? Seeing as it is in Federal court, being a Constitutional challenge, I wish them good luck.
     
  2. timberfaller

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    "Fifty-four sheriffs are joining other gun-rights activists in trying to block a law limiting the size of ammunition magazines. The sheriffs say they're also suing to block a new law expanding background-check requirements for private gun purchases."

    One of the complaints by the Sheriff's was, magazines are not "serial numbered" SOOOO who is going to know weather or not purchased before the law went into effect.

    Liberals don't and can't think ahead of their actions!!
     
  3. Stl Flyn

    Stl Flyn Well-Known Member

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    That is why I asked about the sale being restricted. The SALE of the item will be restricted, not the magazine, or possession. No need for serial number!

    Background checks they are wasting YOUR money, and time, legally, along with challenging the restricted sale of the magazines.

    Get out of the political box!
     
  4. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

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    Maybe this will help you.

    "The interpretation of the magazine limit law includes any unit that can be converted to hold more than 15 rounds, and with almost every single magazine and clip in production today made with a removable base plate, technically allowing for extensions, Taylor said his days of selling those are in question.

    "It's going to be really tough," he said. "We are going to have to speak with lawyers and find out what we can and cannot do."

    Its from one of the related links on the first post.
     
  5. Stl Flyn

    Stl Flyn Well-Known Member

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    "The interpretation"! Also, he is talking about current production, "and with almost every single magazine and clip in production today". Which means future sales, correct? "Taylor said his days of selling those are in question."

    I guess that quoted paragraph, should have helped you more understand my point.

    Future sales my friend. Possible limits in transfers of such in the future.
     
  6. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

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    Future sales are up in the air, by just the way the law is written. You'll need to carry a bill of sale for when you purchased the magazine.

    Its a poorly written law by poorly educated people who some how got elected and re-elected. Mainly by low-information-voters.
     
  7. crusha

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    This is what REAL law enforcement officers look and sound like.
     
  8. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Magpul has joined the lawsuit.

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:<br>
    MAGPUL INDUSTRIES ANNOUNCES LAWSUIT TO INVALIDATE COLORADO GUN CONTROL MEASURES

    Denver, Colorado – May 17th, 2013 - Magpul Industries, an Erie, Colorado, based manufacturer of firearms accessories, announced today that it has joined 53 Colorado County Sheriffs and other plaintiffs in filing a lawsuit this morning to invalidate gun control measures recently passed by the Colorado legislature and enacted by Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper.

    The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court and establishes that Colorado House Bill 1224 (magazine restrictions) and House Bill 1229 (universal background checks) violate the constitutional rights of lawful gun owners located in Colorado.

    Duane Liptak, Director of Product Management and Marketing for Magpul Industries, said that these gun control laws do nothing other than restrict the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves and Magpul is committed to invalidating these infringements:

    “Colorado’s recently passed gun control laws are a direct assault on the constitutional rights of the responsible people who live in and visit this great state. These laws will do nothing to enhance public safety and only place unreasonable limitations on the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves. While Magpul is currently in the process of moving its operations out of Colorado, we will not turn our back on our native state. Extreme gun control interests have forced the passage of these unconstitutional laws in Colorado, and as a company, we are resolved to restore those rights to the people.”

    Magpul’s outside legal counsel, Jon Anderson, of Holland & Hart LLP, said that the Colorado gun control bills are unconstitutional and so poorly drafted that the new laws would be enforced in an inconsistent manner:

    “Colorado’s gun control laws are in direct conflict with the U.S. Constitution. In addition, these bills were so poorly drafted that no one agrees on the scope of the government regulation. If teams of lawyers cannot agree on what these bills prohibit, how can we expect citizens to abide by these laws and how can we rely on law enforcement to implement these laws in a consistent manner?”

    Magpul will continue to support productive efforts to FREE COLORADO from government regulations that imperil the rights of law abiding firearm owners.

    Magpul Industries Corp.<br>

    Just to clarify, we are still moving, regardless of the outcome of this legal action. That train has left the station, and we are well into the selection and negotiation process as well as arranging many elements to be prepared to launch and already moving some production out of state.

    This lawsuit, however, could have national implications. If this suit can get a mag ban struck down as unconstitutional, the nation may see a ripple effect across other states who choose not to trust their Citizens with their natural rights. That makes this fight worth fighting even more than just the implications for CO, which would have been enough to get us involved.

    Stay tuned for more information on how to help this effort, for CO and for all states that currently have unconstitutional magazine restrictions.
     
  9. slide action

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    The point they are making is this was political BS legislation to begin with, and virtually unenforceable. They don't want to waste time and tax payer money on this kind of STUPID LIBERAL BS!!!
     
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    NEWTOWN, Conn. -- The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade association for the firearms industry, has joined with 54 county sheriffs, Magpul Industries, the Colorado Outfitters Association, several firearms retailers, disabled individuals and other parties in a federal lawsuit brought today in the United States District Court for the District of Colorado in what is a broad-based challenge to Colorado's recently enacted gun-control laws.

    "In addition to Constitutional infringements and unenforceable requirements regarding magazine capacity, as the sheriffs have pointed out, we believe it will be impossible for citizens to comply with mandated firearms 'transfers' through federally licensed retailers," said Lawrence G. Keane, NSSF Senior Vice President and General Counsel. "Colorado's federally-licensed firearms retailers are being asked to process these transfers as if they were selling from their own inventory and to monitor both seller and buyer through a state-administered check process that can take hours or even days. They will not be able to recoup the actual cost of providing the service, which is capped at $10, but they will be liable for paperwork errors and subject to license revocation. Not surprisingly, we expect few, if any licensed retailers will step forward to provide this service."

    "For this reason and the many others detailed in our joint action with our fellow plaintiffs, these laws need to be struck down," Keane said.

    The firearms retailers bringing suit are: 2nd Amendment Gunsmith & Shooting Supply, Loveland; Family Shooting Center at Cherry Creek State Park, Aurora; Goods for the Woods, Durango; Grand Prix Guns, Littleton; Green Mountain Guns, Lakewood; Jensen Arms, Loveland; Jerry's Outdoor Sports, Grand Junction; Rocky Mountain Shooters Supply, Fort Collins; and Specialty Sports & Supply, Colorado Springs.
     
  11. timberfaller

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    Here is the new update.

    Read, check out the Ass. of Police Chiefs!!!

    Boy, you union members have great comrade leaders!!!

    Check out what the claim is by the dumbocrats also!
     
  12. Stl Flyn

    Stl Flyn Well-Known Member

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    Its the sale or transfer, not the purchase, or current possession.
     
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