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45 auto load

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by trappertom, Apr 13, 2009.

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  1. trappertom

    trappertom TS Member

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    Looking for a good recipe for 230 GR FMJ (target shooting)and 185/200 Gr HP (for just in case) 45 Auto. Thanks for any information. Shooting a Taurus PT24/7Pro.
     
  2. Mike Michalski

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    http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp or accuratereloading.com
     
  3. Shooting Coach

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    Dear Trapper

    What kind of powder do you load for your shotguns? There is a great chance you already have a suitable powder for your needs.
     
  4. TOLIPNUG

    TOLIPNUG TS Member

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    FOR THE 200 WAD USE 3.8 GRAINS OF BULLSEYE -CLAYS ALSO WORKS WELL BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WEIGHT-CALL THE MFG. TO GET A FREE LOADING SHEET OR LOOK IT UP ON THE NET-RICK.---PS. FOR A HARDBALL LOAD YOU WILL PROBABLY NEED A CHRONOGRAPH TO SET UP FOR A 230 GRAIN BULLET A 750 FPS.--BETTER OFF BUYONG 230 GRAIN FACTORY AT THE PROPER VELOCITY-RICK
     
  5. mr.mark

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    Agree with shooting coach....

    I just started loading for 9 and 45 both and pretty much any shotgun powder out there will give decent results in these cases.

    Obviously the larger (relatively) case of the 45 gives higher velocity with same pressure load using slower powders such as blue dot instead of red dot.

    Happy reloading,
    Mr. Mark
     
  6. Clay KillR

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    I'm using 4.8 Grains of Titegroup with a standard Federal primer. Chronos about 760fps in a 5" Kimber Eclispe Target II. Very consistant, accurate, and cleaner burning than Clays. Clays velocity was too low for good consistancy at its maximum recommended loads.
     
  7. PerazziBigBore

    PerazziBigBore TS Member

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    Now you're cooking..LOL... Is the slow steaming to stress relieve the brass for more uniform grasp on the bullets???
     
  8. PerazziBigBore

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    All joking aside.. a 230 grain ball bullet for target??? Not.. You might consider a 185 or 200 grain semi-wadcutter.. If you load something in the 750/800 fps range I've had excellent results with Winchester 231.. Bullseye..Red Dot.... Green Dot.. and Unique.. Unique has always been my go to powder for any 45 load above a dead slow target load.. For pure target.. reduced recoil.. lighter recoil spring.. The winchester 231 meters flawlessly..and bullseye is right behind it..

    Again.. all data is on line..
     
  9. Jim Porter

    Jim Porter Well-Known Member

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    The only thing about Bulls Eye (and it's probably loaded more than any other powder for the .45) is that you could double charge a case. I always like to use something that would not allow a double charge----I'm accident prone.
    Have Fun!!!
     
  10. Old Texas Marine

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    For "just in case" use factory loads. There are many good defense loads on the market. Run a couple of hundred through your pistol to ensure flawless functioning and then carry those.

    For target (plinking) HP 38 (WW231) burns clean and meters well as previously. Get Hodgdon's Reloading manual and enjoy.

    HBT
     
  11. GrubbyJack

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    BARFIN

    What size ceramic mdeia and where are you getting it? if you don't mind telling....Grubby
     
  12. TOOLMAKER 251

    TOOLMAKER 251 Active Member

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    Sarge, I run a 13 lb. spring in my Clark heavy slide W/tuner. Slide functions fine with 3.8 BE and 200 SWC I also have a George Madore build that I run a 10 lb. spring with a Ultradot attached onto slide. The Madore will amaze people even at 100 yards.
     
  13. jimmyzee

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    Trappertom,

    I've been shooting / loading .45ACP since 1975 . . . for target my favorites are (i) 185 FMJ Hornady and 5.0 WW 231 at 1.185" overall and (ii) 200 SWC Speer and 5.0 Dupont 700-X at 1.225" overall . . . for defense you might try (i) 200 JHP Speer and 6.0 Hercules Green Dot at 1.195" overall and (ii) 230 FMJ-FP Hornady and 8.5 Hercules Blue Dot at 1.205" overall . . . I know Dupont and Hercules are gone but I'm quoting my original data from "the day" . . . Sarge, IMO, Blue Dot worked well for me with heavy bullets like the 230 FMJ-FP Hornady . . . and in case anyone has any WW 630 in stock you can try 11.0 with the 230 bullet at the same 1.205" overall length I used for the Blue Dot load . . . good shooting . . . my guns ? Colt Gold Cup, Colt Combat Commander (accurized) and a Browning BDA.

    James Zakowski
     
  14. PerazziBigBore

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    Hi Sarge.. No.. I never heard of a EIC match?? what is it?? When I hear target shooting.. I'm thinking 4.5 Unique and a 200 grain Semi-wad cutter..I'm just building them.. and shooting them.. For target..to get the fit and function perfect I never shoot full power ball ammo.. Always lighter shells.. If ball is required.. I change the recoil spring to 16/19 pound.. at the end.. and run 25 thru the gun..just to make sure all is OK.. I've never considered power factor for target use.. Now.. the combat shoots..I'm set up for full power loads and my friends furnish me 300 rounds of there ammo to tune things up.. I guess my error was thinking he was just punching paper.. I should have asked first.. All Good.. Mike
     
  15. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Sarge, My heavy slide Clark is built on a Colt series 70 in Keithville, LA. 71047 It was sent back to him in Aug. 1988 for a tune up. No Springfield Armory gun here.
     
  16. PerazziBigBore

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    Thanks 221.. With pistols.. I'm learning how to build them.. Enjoy shooting them.. but have not shot a pistol match in over 25 years.. All Good.. Mike
     
  17. BT-100dc

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    Try 4.5 gr. of Green Dot; works for me for both the 230 & 185 gr. bullets. Darrell
     
  18. PerazziBigBore

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    I've been waiting for a revalation here..but none has come out.. The one thing I know for sure.. is that in pistol shells..Many guns are very pickey about what the shoot really well with.. and what bullet they perfer.. the length of the throat..and how far you seat the bullet in.. or out has alot to do with getting the best accuracy out of your pistol.. Also.. on the 1911.. the foot of the barrel fitting correctly.. and the length of the link has alot to do with it also..
    For strictly paper punching..Bullseye probably has won more matches than all other combined..but I have found Unique to be a GREAT 45ACP all around powder..with HP-38/231 being runner up..

    Red Dot has done well..and Herco.. I've not yet loaded Blue Dot in a 45.. but it does excellent in my 10mm and 40 S&W.. I have some 357 Sig loaded with Blue Dot.. ready to be shot.. If anyone is interested.. I'll report back to you how it did.. All Good.. Mike BTW Anyone know who has pistol primers for sale???? I can't seem to find ANY... Anywhere... Thanks.. Mike
     
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