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45-70 blows up.....I was there

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  1. moke

    moke TS Member

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    This is a photo of a friends 45-70. He had some severe damage to his left hand but it will be OK (GOOD DOCTOR, University Hosp. Madison WI).


    His manual stated 48 grains of Reloader7. Can you guess what happened? ...Answer to follow....moke
     
  2. deercreek

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    Did he use 84 grains ???
     
  3. Michael Jobe

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    I don't know, but I'd guess the wrong powder or too much of the right powder.

    ~Michael
     
  4. moke

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    Wrong powder is correct. Now any ideas as to what powder I found on his loading bench?
     
  5. berettaman7

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    What powder did you find?

    Berettaman7
     
  6. stokinpls

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    Bullseye
     
  7. berettaman7

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    48 grains of Bullseye?

    Berettaman7
     
  8. oletymer

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    I hope the guy gives up reloading.
     
  9. Neil Winston

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    How about #7, a pistol powder? About seven grains of it makes a nice 38 Super load with a 158-grain lead bullet.

    Neil
     
  10. moke

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    Neil, you hit it on the head. Now go to the head of the class, oops that's where you already are!!!!

    First of all this fellow had been reloading for over 25 years!

    He mistakenly used 48 grains of No. 7 instead of Reloader 7. One is made by Accurate the other by Alliant. The burn rate on No. 7 ranks 53rd, while the burn rate of RL7 is about 93rd. A simple miss read that could have cost him a hand or more!!! Remember check, recheck, and check again......moke
     
  11. Bridger

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    Since I live in the Madison area, tell me where this guy was shooting so I don't go there anymore!!
     
  12. moke

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    At my house!!! Northern WI. I have now developed a flinch, and I haven't even shot yet!!!.....moke
     
  13. mike moncilovich

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    First, I hope if there is any injuries that they minor and heal quickly. I been loading since 65 and fear this, because anybody could make a mistake. Distractions, miss-reading scales, labels, daydreaming and being in a rush are some of the reasons. Mike
     
  14. bigbore613

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    Kind of answers the thread about unknown powder. Jeff
     
  15. moke

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    The gun ruptured at the chamber. There was only the one round in the gun.

    He lost 1/2 of his little finger and the tip of his ring finger and a lot of the meat of the palm. All tendons were intact. That is amazing because I found parts of the forearm over 30 feet away....moke
     
  16. Shooting Coach

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    A long time ago, I as going to try a new load of Blue Dot in a 44 Desert Eagle.

    The load called for 20.9 gr, but in my haste, I dialed up 29.0 gr.

    The muzzle flash, noise and recoil was something to behold!. The gun held together, ejected the empty, and did NOT blow the primer. The primer was very flat and riveted. The gun was sent back to the distributor, checked and found to be undamaged.

    That was my one and only excursion into the extreme pressure zone. I had a lucky trip.
     
  17. GoldEx

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    We've all been there. Moving right along on a line of trap and suddenly KABOOM!!!! The guy on the post next to you looks at you and says "Wow, I wondered why that one crimped like that." or something equally stupid. It never ceases to amaze me how these things happen. AA #7 and Reloader 7 do not look anything alike, they are made by 2 different manufacturers and come in completely different shaped bottles. Mistaking one for the other is not an easy thing to do. No excuse. This individual needs to lose all of their reloading equipment and take up another hobby. He is lucky he did not injure anyone sitting next to him with his little oops.

    Jeff
     
  18. eagles11

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    Folks,

    I am an instructor and having these type of pictures is invaluable as teaching tools. If anyone has others please post them here or send to the e-mail above.

    Learning from our mistakes is the highest order of education.

    Jack Burch
     
  19. trackerdan

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    I had taken up the shooting sports again as a young man in my mid 20's about 1973. A security guard where I worked suggested I join the NRA, so I did. When I recieved my VERY FIRST issue of the American Rifleman there was an article in there about squib rounds, misfires and always checking your barrel after such an event. The VERY NEXT DAY I went to the range, which I had been doing for several months and a Father and his young son set up next to me with several new pistols they had purchased. Well 3 shots into a new Ruger wheelgun and the guy gets a squid round. He pulls the hammer back to let er go again, So I say "why don't you check your barrel first". He did and there it was with a slug lodged in the chamber. I was flabergasted and became a life member shortly thereafter.
     
  20. frumpy

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    what kind of gun was it?
     
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