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.410 Reloading?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by parrothead, Feb 6, 2012.

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  1. parrothead

    parrothead Member

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    I am new to reloading for the .410 and wondering exactly what the differences are between the 2 1/2" and 3" hulls. I understand that the shorter hull will not hold the same amount of shot and possibly loaded as hot. Does either pattern better than the other? Most target loads I see seem to be in the 2 1/2" hulls. I will be loading for an occasional round of skeet and sporting clays. Anyone have a pet load? Thanks in advance for any info you can share.
     
  2. johnboy

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    Winchester AA HS hulls and wads with Alliant 410 power ( 11.8 grains )and Cheddite primers for 2 1/2 hulls
     
  3. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

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    The 2 1/2" shells are what you will want to use for the target games. The standard load is 1/2 Oz shot where as the 3" shells normally have 11/16 Oz. - .410 wads are fairly limited in desigh variation and most are simple cups with no compressible section as you need all of the limited case volume for the shot and powder.

    As far as 'hot' .410 loads go, they are all fairly high pressure so the trade off between 2 1/2" shells and 3" is a little bit of shot for a little bit of velocity. There really isn't the huge variety of useful loadings that you see with the larger gauges.

    If you are going to start loading your own ammo, do yourself a favor and start with 2 1/2" Winchester HS hulls, Winchester HS wad, WW296 or H110 powder, the Winchester 209 primer and either #9 or #8 1/2 shot.
     
  4. Shooting Jack

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    I use AAHS hull, 13.6 grains of 296 powder, cheddite primer, cb wads with no. 9 shot. It is a super load for skeet and five stand with shots of 45 yards. Jackie B.
     
  5. hmb

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    Loading the 410 is the ultimate challenge. If you use Wichester hulls then use Winchester wads. If you use Remington hulls use Remington wads. Winchester 296 is the powder. Next find a primer that fits your hulls, CCI usually fit the best. HMB
     
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    I have used Alliant 410 for the past 4 years and based on the recommendation of a AAA skeet shooter here in NC I have switched to Alliant 300MP. Allows you to get the fps up to 1250 without high pressure. Hulls last longer and it meters very consistently. Good luck with it.
     
  7. Quailtail

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    If you use Remington hulls, the older ones, the standard 209 primer will not fit the primer opening in the hulls. Using large size shot will also cause you problems with the shot bridging in the drop tube. Makes a hell of a mess.
     
  8. skeeljc

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    The Remington SP-410 wad loads well in the Winchester HS hull. I prefer it to the Winchester wad. 15.0 grains of H110 will get you 1200 fps. 15.5 grains will boost it to 1250 fps. The 15.5 grain load with 8-1/2 shot makes the .410 a fun Sporting Clays gun! Cheddite 209 primers work well with the Winchester HS hull.

    Jim Skeel<BR>
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  9. RunGunIPSC

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    I have loaded the .410 for 40+ years. Have had as many as 15-18 reloaded flats & 10,000+ once fired hulls in stock. Use the load that wolfram suggested. It will be the easist to load & find hulls & componants. Start with a clean used MEC 600 loader. Don't start with a progressive,it will drive you nuts. You can use the adjustable bar,just make sure the setting are locked well with the set screws.
    Polish the inside & outside of the drop/seating tube to get good shot flow. Use hard 9 shot. Suggest going to Graf or other large supplier & buying 2 flats of new shells to get the hulls. This will end up being the cheapest. Or you can buy some hulls at TS.com.
     
  10. halfmile

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    Don't even think ablut the 3 inch. A big PITA. Once you get the loader setup it's ok but hulls and components are much fewer.

    H110/296, #11 bushing, and use the right wad.

    HM
     
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    Alliant 300MP will get you faster loads if that's what you're looking for. It's cheaper than 296 and hull life is just as good. If you want good hull life stay away from Alliant's 410
     
  12. parrothead

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    Thanks for all of your responses and advice. I do have 2 flats of factory Remington target loads that I will shoot and begin reloading those hulls. The press that I purchased, a MEC 600 is currently set up for 3' so I will convert it back to 2 1/2" and purchase the 1/2 oz.(?) charge bar. Start shopping for the components, and see what happens. I plan to print out this thread so down the road if I have any questions I may contact you through PM. Thanks again guys, you have been very helpful!~Dan
     
  13. RunGunIPSC

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    You are on the right track,parrothead. Stay within the Rem family for wads & primers if you can find them. I agree on the 300MP as it does lower pressure at the same velocity. I have lots of new & older data on the .410. Write if you need help
     
  14. Erik W

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    A lot of combinations will work fine. The best 410 shooters I know do many things the same. They open shot bushing so that it really throws 1/2 oz or slightly +++ of number 9 or 8 1/2 of hard shot (most use 8 1/2). They use enough powder (296, H110, Lil Gun, 410, etc)to produce a "hot" load; going beyond ..... They shoot 410 almost exclusively for practice.
     
  15. halfmile

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    410 loads can be to a higher pressure, 13,500 PSI.

    USe the Hodgdon Website and you can't go wrong.

    HM
     
  16. cf4952

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    (from Hodgdon web site) Duplicates the sporting load.
    Lead Shot 410 Bore 1/2 oz. H110 Win. 209 WAA410HS 16.7 10,400 PSI 1300fps
     
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