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.410 Loader

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Zuzax, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. Zuzax

    Zuzax Member

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    What is a good loading machine for 2 1/2 and 3" .410 shells? I don't need a high production loader, just something to load around 5 to 800 rounds a year.

    Cheers,

    George
     
  2. grntitan

    grntitan Well-Known Member

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    Get a MEC 600jr. or MEC Sizemaster. They will turn out great shells and the cost of the loader won't break the bank. They are single stage loaders but for the small amount you are talking about loading, they will work perfect.
     
  3. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

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    Another vote for the MEC 600jr. Loads about 100 rounds per hour and they are good rounds.
     
  4. Shooting Coach

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    MEC SIZEMASTER.

    If you load hulls that were not shot in your gun, the sizer is a necessity.

    Unit can be adjusted between shell lengths in minutes.

    I have gone to Alliant 300MP for the Wienie Gun.
     
  5. Zuzax

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    Okay, thanks for the information. Hey Coach, I see a lot of load data using W296 and I happen to have an 8 lb keg. Is that any good?

    Cheers,

    George
     
  6. Oregunner

    Oregunner Well-Known Member

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    Winchester 296 is the standard for 410. Same powder as H110. Mark
     
  7. Shooting Coach

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    296 has been a great powder for the 410 for many years. However, with high speed loads and max shot charges, you wind up with a case full of goodies. Does not work on a progressive.

    With my Sizemaster, I put my thumb over the hull when I take it out of the press after dropping shot, and tamp it on the press before crimping.

    300MP takes a little less space in the case. 300MP also generates less pressure with high speed loads.

    Loading the Idiot Stick to 1300+ fps is a game changer.
     
  8. Shooting Jack

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    I load with 296 at the high end and still get more loads out of the hulls than when I loaded with Lil'Gun. I use a Hustler most of the time but use a 600Jr while loading 7 1/2's.
     
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    PW 375, hard to beat them for a single stage.
     
  10. Hetrickshoot

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    Have a MEC Sizemaster new in box. $200
     
  11. Shooting Coach

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    Terry has the deal. New press that has not been monkeyed with! Priced at wholesale.

    Get the shotbar for the 3" shell and you have it all.
     
  12. fly

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    Buy new shells for those quantities.
     
  13. Oregunner

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    I agree. For 2-3 flats a year, buy new Winchester AAs, get the rebate and sell the hulls. Mark
     
  14. wolfram

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    The 600Jr has a resizing station - FWIW. My handloads cycle great in my M42.

    296 is great powder for the .410 particularly with HS hulls and wads. Your 8 lb supply will make about 3,700 .410 shells so that should last quite awhile.
     
  15. himark

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    I bought a loader and have not loaded one shell yet. I needed hulls and bought AA for 90.00 a flat. Take the rebate off thats 70.00 then take the hull price off for selling them at .15 (3.75 box) that brings your final cost down to 3.25 a box. How can a guy even justify loading at that price for new?
     
  16. Zuzax

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    Thanks for all the input! I know I can buy shells as cheap/cheaper (and I do for hulls) as loading, but that's not the point. I'm teaching a few youngsters to shoot trap starting with .410s. And along the way I'm going to introduce them to reloading. A few have already asked me about it, so it's time to get them started. Heck I know I started on a Pacific press when I was about 12 so I feel like this will be a great opportunity for the kids.

    Thanks again,

    George
     
  17. Shooting Coach

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    Although I can buy at wholesale, get rebate, and sell empties, I prefer to "roll my own".

    I have reloaded since 1958 and would not have it any other way. I can load ammo the big boys don't make.

    I LIKE to reload. LOL
     
  18. Zuzax

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    Ditto Coach!

    Been loading since 1965 and still thoroughly enjoy it. And yeah, I can make the good stuff that the lawyers won't let the big boys make!

    Cheers,

    George
     
  19. claybrdr

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    Hard to see how using 300MP takes up less space vs 296 when I use a #12 bushing with 296 and a #13A with 300MP. Also have to drop to 233 Gr shot vs 245 gr shot with same Remington hulls and PC Orange wads when I load 300MP.