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391 Stock. Dipped or real wood?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by darincraft, Mar 17, 2011.

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  1. darincraft

    darincraft Member

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    How can you tell if the stock on a 391 is film dipped or the grain is the real wood? Mine is a 391 Urika 2 with the satin monte carlo stock. The finish and the grain is consistent on the inside of the forearm. I want to make it an adjustable comb and refinish it, but I don't want to if the grain is film dipped.

    If it is film dipped, what is the wood underneath?

    Thanks
    Darin
     
  2. Tron

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    They haven't used that "XtraWood" film coated plain walnut in years. Yours is what's called "XtraGrain". It's not a film, but grain thats actually all the way into the wood by use of a laser process. You can cut it, sand it just like the real thing.
     
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    Post a picture

    Gene
     
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    A shooter at our club had one of these stocks crack in half-right behind the pistol grip. She bought it brand new.
     
  5. Calkidd

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    I'll have to come check it out Darin.
     
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    I'd like to see it. I never heard of the process Tron described until now. Interesting.
     
  7. Dickgshot

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    DON'T DON'T DON'T try to refinish it. If you want an adjustable comb, send it to Tron.
     
  8. Calkidd

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    As I am sure and know Tron is a very accomplished gunsmith, however my brother is very talented in his own right. He has the tools and ability to perform this himself. I have seen his work and it is pretty good he just does it for himself.

    But he is not affraid to ask questions when he is presented with something that he is not sure of. He is unfamiliar with the wood on his gun and wants to know what the finish is so when it comes time to perform this task he is properly informed and has explored all his options.

    Bryan (Big Brother)
     
  9. Dickgshot

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    The X-tra wood is a film, but doesn't last very long and was discontinued. It may be what it's on there. More likely it's the X-tra grain, which is a coloring process that Beretta uses. I suspect it's more than just enhancing the existing grain from what I've seen. If you strip it off I'm sure what you'll wind up with is a very ordinary piece of wood.

    If lil' brother is going to do the adjustable comb himself, there are complete
    hardware packages he can buy.
     
  10. darincraft

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    Thanks for the replies gentlemen. I will take some pics and post them just to make sure of what I have. Right now I am working on an 1100 stock that I hand checkered and cut the comb. I just got the graco hardware today and once I get that mounted up and the finish on it I'll post those pics as well. See what you all think. I will say I am not too impressed with the graco 870 comb hardware.

    Thanks again,
    Darin
     
  11. darincraft

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    here it is

    IMAG0002.jpg
     
  12. Tron

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    That's just plain ol' Beretta wood. No Xtra anything.
     
  13. skeetman77

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    Yep, thats not XTRA wood/grain just plain ole Beretta wood. Is your gun a "gold model"???
     
  14. Spanky

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    Looks like the wood on my Beretta autos. Nice stock. I have no idea what some of the yahoos mean by plywood, pine or contact paper stocks. All you have to do is pull of the butt pad to know what you have or got bilked into. What you have is walnut. A blind man can see there is no contact paper on there or dipped grain/paint. I wish there were pictures of the contact paper stocks but don't expect anyone to post one if that's what they bought thinking it was a high grade wood and paid the high grade price. Good luck with it, it's a nice stock. Good shooting.
     
  15. Dickgshot

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    The X-tra wood looks like a $2,000 highly figured custom walnut stock. The X-tra grain has dark stripes. Doesn't look bad, but you would never mistake it for the original color. Yours is neither.
     
  16. darincraft

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    Well thats what I was wondering. I have never seen anything other than my stock. All the beretta's I have seen have this exact stock, which lead me to believe with all the hub bub about film dipped, all the other stuff I thought "well maybe I am missing something and this is not what it appears to be."
     
  17. Dickgshot

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    If you want to see what an X-tra wood stock looks like go to SEARCH
    sign on name: TASOS, date: March 11,2010, subject: WTB Beretta 682 Sporting stock, there's a picture of one.
     
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    Here ya go.
     
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    From a distance and if i didn't know any better, i'd say it looks real. If you know its a dip, its easier to see. To me its a wannabe nice stock. LOL
     
  20. darincraft

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    AHHHHH...People pay money for that wood? Holy crap that is fugly
     
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