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28 gauge hulls

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by cdan6557, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. cdan6557

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    I just bought a 28 ga silver pigeon and I plan on reloading for it. I am going to purchase several cases of shells to go through to get my hulls. Its either AA or Remington sts, and wanted to know if there were any advantage to one or the other, and also wondered if the AA has the insert like the 12 ga does or is it a one piece hull?

    Thanks
    Charles
     
  2. P3AT

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    In 28 and .410, it is AA all the way, I've reloaded them up to 14 times before having to pitch them. Rems I'm lucky to get 3 or 4 reloads.

    JMHO, Pat
     
  3. Gregory

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    They have the insert also
    I haven't heard of any problems with the insert moving on the 28 ga.
     
  4. mag410

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    AA's last longer. Make sure any AA28's are the longer new production and have the line under the AA on the shell.

    A secondary consideration is Remington hulls can be a pain as some loaders will not fully seat non STS 209 primers in the first reload.

    Michael
     
  5. eff10mm

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    I think the Remington STS hull are worthless in 28ga. I only use Winchester now. I try to get the old hulls if I can, but the new HS are okay. You just can't mix them when you reload.
     
  6. mach1cj

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    Yep...AA's all the way!
     
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    I shoot the STS only because I've got a 55gal. barrel of them. They only go about 3-4 loads before there used up. The AA is a better hull I've seen guys get 8-10 loads out of them before there shot out. I agree the AAHS with the line under the AA is a tic longer which allows you to get all of your components in and get a nice crimp.
     
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    Plus, if you can wait a few months Win may have the $2/box rebate again this year.

    If you have to start now, just buy 1 or 2 flats.

    Jason
     
  9. cdan6557

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    Glad I asked. I was leaning toward the STS. Thank y'all for the help
     
  10. Nebs

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    This is not true. The AAHS 28 ga. does NOT have the separate base wad like the 12 and 20 ga. versions.

    Be careful with wad and powder choices. Old style AA wads do not work well in the new style. Also, when you go to buy the shells, make sure they are all from the same lot. One issue with the AAHS is hull length variation. If you get factory shells all from the same lot, you stand a better chance of having more consistent hull length. And I hear 20/28, a more dense powder than either Unique or Universal, is a better powder in this application.
     
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  11. cdan6557

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    I have seen a lot of data for 800x and was thinking of using it because I like it in heavy 12 ga loads.
     
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    Use Longshot or 20/28 powder and the CB 5034-28 wads in the Win AAHS and you will be happy!
     
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    800X bad choice because it does not meter well.

    You have no metering problems with your heavy loads? Like plus or minus over half of a grain between drops, may not be that bad in 12 ga but in a 28 ga it is not good.

    Jason
     
  14. David McMillen

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    Hodgdon's HS6 is another powder for the AAHS 28ga.
     
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    [​IMG]

    28 aahs hull
    with separate base wad
     

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    I have been loading Alliant Pro Reach in my 28ga. and very happy with it. 17.0 for sporting clays and 15.0 for skeet in the AAHS hull with the Downrange blue wad. Pro Reach has much less pressure than the other 28ga. powders. Bill
     
  17. Brent Paulus

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    Gregory, What RELOADER are you using ? The reason I ask, is that the brass base looks like it didn't drop down far enough in the resized and was crushed. Which is probably a factor in the separation. I'm sort of surprised that you were able to load it in the chamber with out an issue. Let alone fire it and then get it to eject?
    Brent
     
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    I just destroyed the hull and brass to get at the base wad
     
  19. cdan6557

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    I don't seem to have much variance in my powder drops with the 800x in my 12 ga but see a good point in having more variance in loading the 28 ga. The most I am ever off is +\-.3 grains. Usually my shells are .1 grain from each other. I measure about every 20th to 25th shell. Keep the info coming I am taking it all in. I run a 900 PW for my 12 ga and probably going to get a 28 ga kit for it. Y'all have been great help.

    Thanks
    Charles
     
  20. Nebs

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    That is not the same type of basewad the 12 and 20 ga. hulls use where there was a problem with basewad separation. The 28 ga. AAHS is a standard Reifenhouser-type hull. The 12 and 20 ga. AAHS hulls also are Reifenhauser-type hulls but also have a completely different basewad system:

    AAHS 12 and 28 ga.jpg