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23% of Americans getting government assistance.

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by likes-to-shoot, Feb 9, 2012.

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  1. likes-to-shoot

    likes-to-shoot Well-Known Member

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    Around here we lost over 2,000 jobs in the last few years due to companies moving to Mexico. A lot of those people are on some type of unemployment while going to job training. I would assume the same scenario is going on around the country. Hopefuly once the majority of the training is done and those people are back to work the numbers will go down.

    One piece of good news is that one of the companies from here that moved to Mexico is now moving back into the US. Unfortunately not back here but at least to a southern state.
     
  2. blade819

    blade819 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure glad that I'm part of this statistic. :eek:)

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  3. likes-to-shoot

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    Blade, I have to agree with Rick. I'm sure there are a lot of people in the same boat you are in and want out also. Its unfortunate that so many others abuse the system.

    Two people I knew who just got out of the service (Vietnam era) had it figured to the day how long they had to work to be eligible for unemployment over and over again.
     
  4. Oscar Ray

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    Yeah, we pay into Social Security but do not expect it to be there in 5-10 yrs. I get really pissed when I think of all the money I put into social Security and I cannot draw it. I have a 29 year Police pension, yes it is a County government pension, but I have paid into Social Security all my adult life and qualify for a full benefit, but guess what, I cannot collect a full benefit, because I already have a pension. I can collect less than 10% of what I am entitled to. THATS BULL SHIT...If I cant collect the bennefit I am entitled to, give me all my money back that was taken for all those years. The Liberal Retards want to make ILLEGALS eligible for Social Security, that is just wrong!

    Get the Social Security Trust Fund out of the General Fund and repay what is owed to the people of this country.

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  5. kiv-c

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    Rick, just curious, dows that figure also includes disability compensation from the VA to veterans or SS disability payments?
     
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    Something wrong with your statement Oscar - if you've paid into SS for your entire adult life you should be drawing both. My case in point..... 23 years active military duty - recieve pension, paid into SS for 30 years (include military time)..... full benefit being paid....... 18 years in non SS public employment...... pension being paid ..............no reductions in benefits from any of it. But the key to full SS was that I had 30 years paid in.

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  7. blade819

    blade819 Well-Known Member

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    Oscar Ray... here you go again Buddy! If you cannot collect your full SS because you receive a pension, as I interprit your statement, then you must live in Guatamala! I realize that you need to rant about something on ocassion ie, those damn Liberal retards!

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    Oscar......I just started drawing my SS with the discount at 62 and also receive a pension. When I signed up for SS the first question I ask was if my pension would affect my SS. I was told there was NO penalty whatsoever.
     
  9. Calcutta John

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    Rick, I'm not totally sure, but I think that the one in five receiving 32,000 thou from the gov't excludes S>S> retiress. That's what Rush said.
     
  10. John Galt

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    Social security was never anything more than just another tax- granted FDR didn't sell it that way but that's what it was. It's nothing but a transfer from the younger generation to the older generation and has always been that. Every penny any of us paid into ss was paid out to some ss recipient immediately. By the same token, whatever ss any of us receive will come from some other suckers. Socialism at its finest.
     
  11. Bisi

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    Does anybody else think of social security as being a sexist scam?

    I sure think it is. Women on average live 7 years longer than men, yet they get to draw at the same age as men. Sexist! If it was the other way around we sure would hear it from Gloria Alred, Hillary, Nancy, etal about it being a sexist sceme devised by sexist men.

    Therefore, I propose that men should be allowed to start receiving SS at age 55, and keep 62 as being the earliest women could draw.

    Anybody else agree?
     
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    Their are many kinds of government assistance that people don't understand or aren't aware of. Such as in that qualification you are also elidgable for free I phones with 235 minutes a month. And also if you bring a friend who qualifies for a Iphone you get one hundred more free minutes. All paid for by you and me in our phone bill that the government has the phone companies add to our bill.Which we pay for the people that the government put their in the first place. I believe their are 4 million people getting Phones now. The numbers are increasing rapidly.

    On a different note. I aske a worker durring lunch today Who claims is a very devout Christian. Quote parts from the bible without hesitation. Complains about the fkn Obama, and says it the way I expressed it here. Talking about the government making people dependent on the gov. I said to him lets look at it from another angle. Supposed you got laid off and your unemployment ran out. But you qualified for a Iphone with 235 free minutes. You got food stamps every month. You qualified for unitlilties to be paid for. Now someone comes along in politics an says we need to cut spending in many of these areas or at least scale way back. Now who would you vote for. He said it sure wouldn't be for the man that wanted to make all the cuts cause I would loose everything. I told him you are just the person Obama is looking for. Someone that is a christian that would sell their soul to the devil(Obama) as long as you are getting something free. Afraid to rely on youself. Perhaps you need to study the good book a little harder. And you shouldn't talk about your president that way. He will furnish you the toliet paper as long as you wipe his ass first. Wild Bill
     
  13. BAD 303

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    Those damn rich people need to cough up more money so the libs can create more dependence. More dependence means more liberal votes. Buy votes anyway they can. More dependence means more power. The libs have the system screwed from the get go.
     
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    Ponzi was a piker. Even Maddoff is getting three hots and a cot - courtesy of the feds.
     
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    Does the 67 million figure include the 46 million people on food stamps?
     
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    You fogot to include all the ASSHOLES running our Government ? I wonder ,what
    thier percentage comes out to ?
     
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