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.223 or 22-250?

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by FarmerD, Feb 4, 2008.

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  1. FarmerD

    FarmerD TS Member

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    In my opinion, 22-250. Ben
     
  2. code5coupe

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    If performance is paramount, the .22-250 gets the (slight) nod.
    If economy of shooting is paramount, the .223 gets my vote.

    They are pretty close to each other in all aspects.
     
  3. KEYBEAR

    KEYBEAR Active Member

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    The 223 use way less powder is alot less noise just alot more fun to shoot .
     
  4. Shooting Coach

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    Most folks I know who go out west to shoot oodles of prairie poodles took a 22/250 and a 223 the first time they went. The next time, they took 2 223's. A good rifle will connect on a small target at 400+ yards.

    If shooting 300 yards or under, the 223 gets the nod. If shooting a bunch, the 223 gets the nod. If loading to get the most bang for the buck, guess what?

    One can shoot the 223 all day at a modest pace and not overheat the barrel.
     
  5. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    I'm with Coach here. I take (2) 223's and a 243 which gets very little use.

    22-250 project is under way, less recoil and the 243 will stay home.

    Plan to add a short range quiet cool running cheapshooting gun like a fireball or a 20 VArtarg. Brass headache but otherwise meets the spec.

    HM
     
  6. dverna

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    Get a 17 HMR for shorter ranges and fairly cheap shooting. Good to 150 yards or so.

    Don
     
  7. maclellan1911

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    22 250.....whats that, aint seen that on any shelves in my area for a long time. 223 now that is everywhere.
     
  8. SWIFT

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    Try a Swift. Run it hot and seat bullets touching just like a good woman. You will make adjustments all day long on varmits with a .223 at long ranges. a 250 almost gets there but can't unless you go improved When you shoot a barrel out call Hart or Shieln.
     
  9. Bocephas

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    223 is ok,but if you go 400 to 600 yards the 250 or swift will be hands down.

    Bo
     
  10. SShooterZ

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    Don't leave the Triple-Deuce out. Probably the most fun of the three!

    Between the .223 and the .22-250, I'd take the .22-250 because you can slow down a .22-250 with light loads but you can't speed up a .223 past a certain point.

    Personally, I own all three and I love 'em all!
     
  11. darr

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    I have a 22250 Ackly.If you find the right load ,and that takes a while, it is best hands down.The brass last for a long time and shoots flaaat.But I enjoy reloading.If you don't then the .223 is the only way to go.If you do reload and do choose the 22250 get the Ackly Improved.No case stretching and easy to form and load.It really is the ultimate varmint gun.Also look into the tach .20.That is the .223 necked to .204.I think you can by factory ammo for that round now.No muzzle jump and a real tack driver.Itried a tach .20 shotting 40 gr. Bergers and dropped coyotes at between 250 and 300 yards holding on fur.They didn't twitch and did not buger up the pelt.Have fun buying the new gun.There is almost nothing better than the deciding other than the buying and some other unmentionables.Have fun.

    Darr Wilson
     
  12. FarmerD

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    I agree, I have a Ruger 22-250 that I had bored to 40 percent Ackley, and it will shoot 40 gr. Nosler BT bullets a 4200 fps and print 3/8 inch 3 shot groups at 100 yds. Deadly on rock chucks. Ben
     
  13. wam6187

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    Check the ballistics on Gun's and Ammo's web site - I was considering a 22-250 but ended up going with a .223.

    Bill
     
  14. Joe Woods

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    Quite a discussion. Either buy one of each. Bought my first 700 Varmint/22-250 in 1966. No regrets. Know that I get older prefer lighter gun. I also have a Rem 700 Custom/22-250 Bought in early 70's . Both shoot as well as I can. Then I bought a Kimber 84/Oregon left hand/223 Rem. I use it currently. All good guns. 700 Custom & Kimber have beautiful triggers . I tuned the 700 Varmint myself. Those Timney Triggers are preset for 2.5 lbs. Work well with no fuss.


    Joe Woods/Ontario
     
  15. AveragEd

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    I used to have several heavy-barreled varmint rifles but with the housing boom here in central Pennsylvania, farms aren't staying in families any more and acreage for hunting woodchucks is becoming harder and harder to find. And if you can get a farmer's permission to hunt, you have to be ultra-careful because what used to neighboring farms usually are housing developments. These days, I seldom shoot my heavy-barreled varmint rigs and prefer carrying a sporter-weight gun in .243, 6mm or .25-06 with handloads specific to the game being hunted.

    But back to the original question - either caliber is great and if you handload and have an abundance of once-fired .22-250 brass as I do, it's the way to go. A local firearms distributor is invited on a week-long rockchuck/prarie dog hunt by a scope maker every year and takes a case of .22-250 factory loads along. Upon his return, he sells the empties with their boxes. About 15 years ago, I bought all of that year's brass and I doubt that my son or I will ever have to buy any more in our lifetimes!

    Ed
     
  16. wolfram

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    The .22-250 is my personal favorite but I have ruined a few barrels with high volume ground squirrel shooting. (hard to pace yourself) The .223 would probably be a better choice if you intend to shoot a few hundred rounds in an afternoon of rodent busting. .223 factory loaded ammo used to be a lot less expensive than comparable .22-250 rounds, that price gap is minimal these days and all serious varminters load their own anyway.
     
  17. sako2115

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    IMO, both are excellent, but apples and oranges. .223 for up to consistent 250 yds., 22-250 or 220 swift for beyond, and if you are really into it, a third rifle, 6mm Remington would be my favorite. But the .223 is the truck of the bunch, can shoot it and shoot it and shoot it with little throat erosion.
     
  18. halfmile

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    A 3 day PD trip for us is 3-4-5 rifles each, and 2000 loaded rounds for sure.

    Tom ran out last time and had to borrow from me, but that was because of his other gun breaking down and using uup all his 223's.

    I can heat up one 223 so I bring 2. Next will be a 221 fireball or the 20 cal version. Half the powder, still 3000 plus velocity, way less heat and noise.

    If you are only going to have one, and shoot in volume the 223 is the only way, because brass prices are unreal right now. You can get once fired 223 for 60 or so a thousand.

    HM
     
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