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.22 Ammo The New Currency???

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by big joe, Mar 15, 2011.

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  1. big joe

    big joe Member

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    If the world goes to heck....could it happen??
     
  2. 221

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    22 RF has been referred to as the currency for survival, since people started talking about what if.

    500rds of 22 will last a man a long time and not draw attention to himself.
     
  3. 338reddog

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    I keep saving, I have about 30,000 in the bank right now.
     
  4. Quack Shot

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    Clean Drinkable water would be in high demand. Without it, you may not last long enough to use/spend your 22's.
     
  5. shannon391

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    spam, the stuff last forever.
     
  6. wolfram

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    If/when it gets to that point you won't want anything to do with other people so in addition to your guns and ammo you better have food, water, shelter and be in a place you can avoid conact with others.
     
  7. TOOLMAKER 251

    TOOLMAKER 251 Active Member

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    Are you saying my 5.56 and 7.62 ammo is worthless? If you go to a gun fight, don't show up with a 22 rimfire.
     
  8. kiv-c

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    (1) In a survival situation I can carry more rounds of .22 than any other size or type of ammo. (Let's see how far and long you can carry 500 rounds of 7.62 or ,45 ACP compared to 500 rds of 22 ammo!)

    (2) With a carefully placed shot it will bring down anything that a larger caliber will. (Eskimos and indians have killed polar bear and moose quite well with .22 shorts!)

    (3) Generally, rimfire rifles are lighter to carry. (5.5 to 6.5 lbs average)

    (4) They are more quiet than CFs.

    (5) They need less cleaning and maintenance. (target shooters almost never clean their bores)

    (6) Better dual use capability (works in rifle and handgun)
     
  9. shannon391

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    How well will it do in a firefight with armed raiders?

    My .223 can do anything the .22 can.
     
  10. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Yea, I know some indians that were taking down bisons with a .177 Crossman pellet rifle pumped only 4 strokes. They can carry a lot more pellets then you can your 22 shorts.
     
  11. wolfram

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    How many encounters with armed raiders do you think you might survive?
     
  12. kiv-c

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    A rule to be observed before any of the ones below - Avoid all firefights if possible!

    Drill Sergeant Joe B. Fricks Rules For A Gunfight


    1. Forget about knives, bats and fists. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring four times the ammunition you think you could ever need.


    2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammunition is cheap - life is expensive. If you shoot inside, buckshot is your friend. A new wall is cheap - funerals are expensive


    3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.


    4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.


    5. Move away from your attacker and go to cover. Distance is your friend. (Bulletproof cover and diagonal or lateral movement are preferred.)


    6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a semi or full-automatic long gun and a friend with a long gun.


    7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.


    8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running. Yell "Fire!" Why "Fire"? Cops will come with the Fire Department, sirens often scare off the bad guys, or at least cause then to lose concentration and will.... and who is going to summon help if you yell "Intruder," "Glock" or "Winchester?"


    9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.


    10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.


    11. Stretch the rules. Always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.


    12. Have a plan.


    13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. "No battle plan ever survives 10 seconds past first contact with an enemy."


    14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible, but remember, sheetrock walls and the like stop nothing but your pulse when bullets tear through them.


    15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.


    16. Don't drop your guard.


    17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. Practice reloading one-handed and off-hand shooting. That's how you live if hit in your "good" side.


    18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. Smiles, frowns and other facial expressions don't (In God we trust. Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them.)


    19. Decide NOW to always be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.


    20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.


    21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet if necessary, because they may want to kill you.


    22. Be courteous to everyone, overly friendly to no one.


    23. Your number one option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.


    24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with anything smaller than "4".


    25. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket." At a practice session, throw you gun into the mud, then make sure it still works. You can clean it later.


    26. Practice shooting in the dark, with someone shouting at you, when out of breath, etc.


    27. Regardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperature.


    28. The only thing you EVER say afterwards is, "He said he was going to kill me. I believed him. I'm sorry, Officer, but I'm very upset now. I can't say anything more. Please speak with my attorney."


    Finally, Drill Sergeant Frick's Rules For Un-armed Combat.

    1. Never be unarmed.
     
  13. quartering

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    a .22 round is worth whatever it can kill: a muskrat or a cat or something. a half pint of whiskey will buy you a cow. good luck with it
     
  14. whiz-bang

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    If this was true I would be in good shape. I have about 225 bricks of vintage 22 ammo and around 60000 rounds of 22 short gallery ammo.
     
  15. bigdogtx

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    kiv-c,,,,good one,,,,might add, "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck" ;)
     
  16. JH

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    The author forgot a few:


    29. Pray the guy you shot has a criminal record.

    30. Make sure you have a good lawyer. You may have to mortgage your house to get off the hook.

    31. Further your chances of winning in court by living in a DEEP RED state.
     
  17. jerryr1

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    If Memory serves me right, the old Herter's survival guide had us in a barter system with, .22's, coffee, tobacco and whiskey being the most valuable.
    PS: The Herter's we see today is mockery to a good name of the past. JR..
     
  18. Jim101

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    I try to keep several thousand rounds of various pistol and rifle caliber ammo
    on hand, Just in case I need to make change.

    It's a good idea to have firearms in the same calibers as the police and military use. There will always be ammo for those. You may have to take it from a dead man, But it will be available.




    Jim
     
  19. GrubbyJack

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    Oh yea,

    George Leonard Herter

    and his kin Jacques P. Herter

    and the North Star Guide Association

    Grubby
     
  20. oskerspap12

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    Never met the man,but I couldn't wait till his new calalog showed up in the mailbox every year...........Fond memories.............

    D.P.Reynolds
     
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