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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Shooter R, Dec 28, 2011.

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  1. Shooter R

    Shooter R Active Member

    Dec 13, 2008
    I love ATA shooting. There's nothing like an uninterupted 100 targets to let you know "how you're doing". My favorite is handicap. Give me a 300 bird hcp. event any day.

    For the record, I'm at 26.5 yards. I will take a reduction if it's offered, but will get it back, a half yard at a time with a 93, 94, or 95 at some local shoot.

    I'm not unhappy that some so called "Big Dog" shooters will often win events from the 27 yard line, (and I've been there too), and then they will not "earn" any yardage for their WIN, and the money they've won.

    However, some ATA shooters that I've talked to feel something is wrong with the mandate if THEY win (even with a 92), they go back. Yet someone who shoots tens of thousands of rounds per year (practice and registered) and can master the 27 yard line, will just be able to stay there. Reguardless of the number of wins they have.

    A lot of ATA shooters tell me stories of the "Hundred Straight" they shot last year, only to read stories of the long run of 1,500 plus straight shot by some very talentd individuals.

    16 yard shooting is one thing, there are classes. Handicap shooting is another. We all shoot against each other. There is yardage earned, for some shooters. However, not if your "KNOWLEDGABLE" from the 27. You can just win, and stay there.

    What I'd like to do is offer a few ideas to promote ATA shooting. Fairness must be percieved to attract and retain shooters.



    1 ounce max loads. Use any velocity that is safe, like sporting clays. (Don't laugh, sporting clays is doing VERY well).

    Most shooters know 1 oz. will allow you to shoot a perfect 16 yard score. It's been brought up before.

    Pros: No need for more concrete. Less cost for the shooter. And here's another BIG ONE: Easier on new shooters. Most of us can handle 3 Dram loads, but look at all the PFS, bumpbuster, Gracoil, Kickease, etc., etc., etc., recoil reducer systems, not to mention release triggers, so we can actually shoot devices. I've often seen new shooters with a rental or loaned gun getting SMACKED while shooting. I'll bet they are not having a good time, and won't be back.

    Cons to 1 oz. loads: Some shooters don't like them, and they may not be best for long yardage handicap.


    This one's contriversial. Allow non-registered shooters to participate in registerd events. They should only be allowed to shoot if they have a basic idea of safety as determined by the shoot management. They should be squaded together if possible, and a they would have to pay full target price, and any ATA and State ATA fees which would go to the appropriate organization. They would not be eligable for any options or trophy's. They would have No Class designation for 16 yard. They would shoot at 20 yards for handicap. No Class designation for doubles. If they want to compete for prizes or cash, they can sign up as ATA members.


    This one is a maybe, but would work out good for the many small clubs looking to stay in the ATA game.

    Allow registered shooters to decide if they want thier targets registered before they shoot.

    For example... You're ATA weekend turns out to be windy, cold, and maybe rainey. Most shooters I know would say to them selves, "good weekend to make the wife happy with a few stay at home chores". However, the Club hosting the shoot thinks... Bad weather, I'll have to let a few pullers go home early, put the food back in the freezer, and hide the advetised trophies.

    A good solution may be for the shooters to go to the shoot, knowing they may not do very well, pay for the targets, and the ATA fees, and just not have their targets registered, if they chose. It would be a sort of non-registered, registered event. (i.e. practice shooting, and hanging out with your friends). You would have to declare this before you shoot.

    To everyone... Have a safe and Happy New Year!
  2. Bird30

    Bird30 TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Does this mean that my buddy can shoot his singles and handicap from 16 yards being the fact he is on 18 yards ?

  3. Rich219

    Rich219 Active Member

    Aug 25, 2009
    I think I'm going to count how many threads are created in 2012 that are in regards to how the ATA needs to be changed/improved. It seems like lately there are multiple threads per day that are nothing more than 90% of people crying and complaining. I have to stick with my belief that regardless of how the rules change winners are going to win and those who fail to win are still going to fail to win.
  4. J.Woolsey

    J.Woolsey Member

    Aug 12, 2007
    You nailed it Rich!
  5. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Banned User Banned

    Jan 29, 1998
    Northampton PA
    Why change anything? ATA trapshooting is growing by leaps and bounds. And the average age of ATA participants is? It won't be long when we'll be hoping those 80 and 90 yo geezers will finally return to the game of their youth and take up Trapshooting again!!
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