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1187/1100 trap barrel question

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by hacker, Jan 6, 2012.

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  1. hacker

    hacker Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    I just bought a barrel off an auction site. It was
    advertised as an 1187 barrel, 30 inch full choke,
    and it was marked "Target 2 3/4 inch shells" on
    the barrel. It has a raised vent rib, as some of
    the Remington trap barrels have. Also the gas cylinder
    area looks like an 1187 because it has the step down
    in diameter at the front end, but it has no springs
    on it like the typical 1187 and that no doubt is
    why it is not capable of handling the full range
    of loads from light 2 3/4 to heavy 3 inch, which the
    typical 1187 handles. So this barrel is a bit
    different. So in effect it is pretty much an 1100
    barrel regardless of what it was advertised as.
    This is all fine, if Remington wanted to sell an
    1187 as a trap gun and put an actual 1100 technology
    barrel on it, I have no problem with that. I have
    shot it on both an 1187 and an 1100. It Works fine.

    I measured the choke, and by my gauge, it is showing
    modified, yet it is marked full. It shows no sign
    of the choke being reamed out, as the barrel was
    about perfect and still had blue on the inside
    of the barrel at the choke area.

    I shot the barrel with my standard practice loads,
    which is 7/8 ounce of number 7 1/2 shot @ 1200 fps.
    These loads were really breaking the targets hard,
    and I was hitting them at long range, because I
    shot mostly from station 1 or station 7 on the
    skeet field, which puts me way off to the side,
    so that I was getting long range crossers out of
    the trap house. Station 1 and 7 equates to 16 yard
    trap shooting on this field, but I was way off to
    the side and this increased distance to the target.
    As I shot those, I shot low gun, mounting after
    the target appeared coming up behind the target
    and passing through it, thus I was not shooting
    fast, but relatively slowly and therefore those
    targets were really out there. I was breaking
    the targets hard, not like I would have expected
    out of a modified with a light practice load that
    I was using. This thing was breaking targets
    just as hard as my full choke barrels, yet the
    hole in the end indicates otherwise.

    So my question is:

    Did Remington fool around with bore size etc on
    some of these trap barrels? I have a choke
    caliper somewhere but can't find it right now
    to measure the actual constriction, but I am
    hoping that some of you are familiar with
    how Remington has made these barrels.
  2. hmb

    hmb Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    The only way to be sure of the choke constriction is to measure the barrel diameter and subtract the choke diameter from it. That said, there is a Remington trap barrel that has a tapered bore, those barrels used chokes with less constriction than normal chokes have. Thus a modified choke acts like a full choke. HMB
  3. jm1079

    jm1079 Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    The Remington 11-87 barrels that are marked "Target" on the left side have the tapered backboring and they are great target crunchers. JM
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