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1145 fps load from the 27 ?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Hammer1, Sep 23, 2012.

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  1. Hammer1

    Hammer1 Active Member

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    How much are you further handicapping yourself using a 1145 fps 1-1/8 ounce load from the 27 yard line compared to either a 1200 or 1235 fps load ?

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  2. jmac_cope

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    1250 fps for me. 7 1/2 shot. I'll take all the advantage I can get. Why handicap yourself?

    JMAC
     
  3. School Teacher

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    IMO your are not handicapping yourself. Ask Ray Stafford, he seems to do OK with light loads.

    If I shoot a hundred 3 dram loads, I get tired. I can shoot light loads especially the 1100 fps "extra light loads all day long.

    Ed Ward
     
  4. Limpy100

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    Hammer; You just have to pracice to get the right leed with the slower shell. Mywife shoots with a 1100fps load in handycap and does quite well.
     
  5. wayneo

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    Devon Harris won the inaugral $100,000 shoot-off with 1145, 1-1/8, #8, Federal papers. From the 27

    Wayne
     
  6. Setterman

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    Wind and temps make a difference too.
     
  7. 1oldtimer

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    Some shooters on here tell us 7/8 is all we need if we point it correctly?
    Clyde
     
  8. Scott Johnson

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    Ray Stafford doesn't do okay.................he does GREAT @ the 27 yard line, matter of fact I think he has the most 100 straight from the 27 in ATA. Thats a lot better than okay. What shells does Ray shoot, anyone know? Scott
     
  9. Setterman

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    So how many 100's from the 27 have you shot with light #8's?

    Was the wind blowing? 10mph, 20mph? 30? Was it 60, 70, or 90 degrees?
     
  10. oleolliedawg

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    Some say it's only a few inches difference in impact between a faster or slower shell. Yet, at the same time, we're constantly adjusting our vertical impacts with washers or movable ribs. The late Frank Little stated Ray Stafford was gonna get beat up by Fl. targets with his famous Federal X-Lites and he did. It now takes high 90's scores to win any Handicap event and not every trapshoot is held at Vernal, Utah. If you're winning the 'caps with slow shells please stand up!!
     
  11. shoobedoo

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    In practical terms, ie. the ability to produce a broken target, the difference is miniscule. Let's have a look at raw numbers for both 1150 & 1200 fps. loads using a distance of 40 yards from barrel to bird as a baseline....

    1 1/8 oz. #7.5 @ 1150 fps.

    Drop @ 40 yds. = 4.6 in.

    Time of Flight = .154 Sec.

    Velocity = 608 fps.


    1 1/8 oz. #7.5 @ 1200 fps.

    Drop @ 40 yds. = 4.1 in.

    Time of Flight = .146 Sec.

    Velocity = 634 fps.
     
  12. slide action

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    Arnold Reiger didn't seem to have a problem using them.
     
  13. Setterman

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    I watched Stafford shoot a practice at the Silver Dollar prior to the handicap event 2 years ago. He was using Rem lite 7 1/2's. They could have been reloads, but looked new.

    My squad shot behind his in the caps. He was kicking out his empties. He shot Light Handicap 7 1/2's in the event. Don't remember if he shot good.

    It was windy and cool. Did he make an "adjustment"?
     
  14. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    When conditions are perfect light loads work fine. Throw some wind into the mix and all bets are off. I shot some great Handicap scores with Federal X-Lites and #1 son made it to the fence with 'em too. Of course, I'm not Ray Stafford!!
     
  15. wolfram

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    Yes and they work very well. The heavier loads may seem like the way to go from a purely technical viewpoint but the light loads are easier to shoot and that factor is more important than raw power.

    I get excellent breaks using the 2 3/4 dram x 1 1/8 Oz loads from the back line and my scores are better with this type of ammo than with actual handicap loads. Give it a try and draw your own conclusions.
     
  16. Scott Johnson

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    SO less recoil is the main factor in the easier to shoot, or do shells pattern a hair better at 1150 fps than 1250 fps? Opinions please. Scott
     
  17. wolfram

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    Scott, I don't shoot many paterns on paper so I don't know that the lower vel loads pattern bettern than HC type loads - I have read some test reports that indicates this is the case.

    But for me the lower recoil helps my shooting more than anything. Now if a person really believes that the lower vel loads just won't break targets from long HC distances then that will probably be the real truth for them.
     
  18. Jawhawker

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    So why is it a disadvantage? For the proponents of the faster shell, please explain.

    Setterman, Orlich shot several with them.

    Iam enlightened to learn this load is whats held me back all these years. Always thought it was being a one eyed shooter.
     
  19. Carl Chadwell

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    West of the Mississippi, sure.

    East of the Mississippi, I prefer 1200 plus.

    peace.
     
  20. Setterman

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    pheasantmaster, I didn't know you were being "held back"!

    Wind, humidity, and cool mornings lead me to think "Heavy 7.5's".

    ps: what did kind of pup did you get, or are you still looking?
     
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