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1100 Bolt will not pull back.

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by superxjeff, Apr 20, 2013.

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  1. superxjeff

    superxjeff Active Member

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    Ok... The bolt will not pull back.. Then all the sudden if I held the gun in just the right position ( upright as you would hold it in your arms about to take a shot) it would but It sure wasn't smooth.

    Tore the gun apart... One end of the fork was clearly shorter the the other. So.. I know it needs a fork. Problem is.. It's a 28ga and I do not have another fork to put in it. So-- I will order one... Here is the odd part

    The action with all parts in place except the broken fork will still not cycle to the rear and if I can get it to, it will not go back forward.

    I was going to tear apart an 1100 12ga and try to get it to act in teh same way to see if it is merly just the fork being broke as well as not installed that is is causing the action not to cycle weather the fork is in place or not.

    What are your thoughts??????
     
  2. Oregunner

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    What I do, to try and isolate the problem, is take everything out, trigger, action bar, bolt, fork, etc. Install just the action bar without the bolt and see if it slides back and forth smoothly, then add the bolt, etc. until I can isolate the issue. Trigger has to be cocked when reinstalled. Mark
     
  3. SB4J

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    Make sure forearm support bracket is on the right way round.
     
  4. superxjeff

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    The bolt will not go back and forth when the trigger is in the gun.

    Prior to removing the link it did so once in a while.. but not smoothly

    I did not reinstall the link as it is broke.

    The action will move back and forth with no trigger in the gun but... that is putting zero pressure on the bolt.

    It will not move easily with the trigger in the gun and if you can get it to move to the rear, it will not move forward.
     
  5. hmb

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    Check to see if one of the legs on the action bar is broken. HMB
     
  6. DanLee

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    See if the piece of link that's missing is stuck in the trigger mechanism. I had this happen, but it was a piece of the forearm support on a 12 gauge.

    Dan
     
  7. Oregunner

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    I like that idea. The piece off the fork had to go somewhere. It might be in the trigger works, or might have bent something as it worked it's way out. How does the trigger work, out of the gun? Mark
     
  8. johnpe

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    If this is the same gun that was having problems at a GHGC shoot yesterday, send me a PM and I'll meet you there with my 28 Sporting and compare them side by side.

    Johnpe
     
  9. superxjeff

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    johnpe - Not the same gun. I am in Oregon.

    Couln't find any chunks of anything.

    The little job that lets the shells out of the magazine just came out so I will be going to the gunsmith no matter what as I do not have a proper staking tool.

    This thing is F*$CKed up and I have no idea what is wrong. I have been shooting 1100's for 30 years. Jeff
     
  10. pitt4570

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    jeff check the interceptor latch it pushes against the follower if it has the plastic follower it might be chewed up and sticking on that ted
     
  11. pitt4570

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    check the shell stop too if its not in the right spot it will jamb stuff up
     
  12. Straight50

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    Jeff, you don't need to go to the Smith to replace the latch. Drop a drop or two of crazy glue in the channel that the latch go's in. Reinsert the latch back in the receiver, making sure you get it in the channel and the hole lined up with the pin hole in the receiver. It will probably snap in place because of the stake marks. You may want to make a trail run to make sure it snaps back in place before adding the glue. Hold it until the glue drys. Reinsert the trigger assembly and always drive the pins in from right to left and out from right to left. This avoids dislodgeing the latch.
     
  13. Full N. Fuller

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    Isn't that karma when someone with a name like yours shoots a parts-spitter like the 1100? :)

    I would take the stock off and make sure everything is sliding up and down in the tube freely.
     
  14. Duck

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    Jeff,

    Have you resolved your problem?.
     
  15. superxjeff

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    No.. I am at work and I don't have the replacement parts I need. I messed with it last night and I have no idea what the issue is. It is going to the gunsmith as soon as I get the parts we may need. he doesn't have a ny small bore parts.

    P.S The sx-1 was made in 12ga only. If they had made a 28ga I would never have purchased an 1100.Jeff
     
  16. superxjeff

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    Well.. She is finally fixed. In addition to the link being broken it was the plastic follower just like pitt4570 mentioned ( Thanks Ted). in 30 years of shooting 1100's I have never had to take one to the gunsmith except to have latches staked because I never bought a staking tool.

    This had me tearing my hair out. If it wasn't the finest pointing 28ga I have ever shot, I would have put it in the vice and cut it in half with a cutting torch. Jeff
     
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    Glad you got the gun fixed. I use the 12 ga trap version of the 1100 myself. I had a problem with mine similar to yours. The gun stopped cycling, and I found the link (fork) had one tine broken off about an inch. The cup it fits into to push the action spring also was chewed up (old aluminium type); so I replaced both the link and cup. Gun worked for maybe six or so sessions, then stopped cycling again. This time, I found the action bar arms had snapped--both sides. I replaced the action bar assembly, and all was well. I suspect one action bar arm had cracked or snapped back at the time the link broke, but can't be sure.

    The 1100 is a fine gun, but, as with all autoloaders, there are parts that can break. I believe the 1100 holds the record among autoloaders for the most rounds fired without needed repair. For shooting trap, it's probably the best gas-operated autoloader around.
     
  18. superxjeff

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    Having shot 1100's for 30 years I would suspect that just about any other autoloader would hold that title! I know that Nu-Line guns had a sx-1 that went 45,000 without cleaning or broken parts. Jeff
     
  19. Danny870

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    put your thumb in the bottom and push the follower in and see if the bolt will release if so the follower is probley chewed up and needs replaced
     
  20. superxjeff

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    yea.. Thanks but the guns fixed.
     
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