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$100,000 well spent?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Hitapair, Aug 14, 2012.

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  1. Hitapair

    Hitapair Active Member

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    As you all probably know, the ATA decided to throw $100,000 added money in the pot for prelim day events on Fri-Sunday. Looking at last years participation numbers on Fri-Sun, if the purpose was to increase attendance, it looks like a miserable failure to me. Looking at the caps events for the 3 days, the participation went up by less than 100 shooters per event. (According to the program there wasn't a caps event on Sun last yr so I used the most recent yr that there was one) The result for singles and dubs was hardly any better. Some increased by a little over 100 but none increased by as much as 150. But then again, maybe it is considered a rousing success to get an extra 100 people to shoot at Sparta.

    Flame away.
     
  2. tanda1

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    Looks like 87 shooters were OK with the idea.

    About a half dozen thought it was fan-freakin-tastic.

    And one dude fainted.


    Congrats to the lucky winners!!!


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  3. Francis Marion

    Francis Marion Well-Known Member

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    I have been watching this subject since they announced it. Haven't seen this aspect of it. How is it that the ATA has $100,000.00 laying around to plow into added money? Seems to me we may be paying too much to shoot if they have this kind of money available.I believe they are a 501 C3, which is supposedly non profit, and they just moved two states west.Moving costs money. Just asking.
     
  4. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    Hey pal... How'd you get a name like "flame away"...

    I'm jealous
     
  5. Setterman

    Setterman Well-Known Member

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    Taking money generated from all the members to throw at events some cannot attend is BS.
     
  6. Dr. Honk

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    Who won the $11,890 ?

    Just curious.
     
  7. V10

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    Harlan had the top score.

    Leo was second money, and Fred Nagel took third money.
     
  8. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    Isn't it great to see the top shooters receiving support payments from the rest of the ATA shooters? After all, option participation is down and likely so are clinics. This is a much needed boost provided by the local peasantry!!
     
  9. likes-to-shoot

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    It would be interesting to see some of these guys income tax returns. Playing the options at State Shoots and the other Grands they attend during the year I'm sure its no real big money but where does Amateur end and Professional begin?
     
  10. BIGDON

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    Boo Hoo - If you want part of it come and get it.

    By the way more than half of the pot came from the shooters who choose to enter, $50,000 from the ATA and $60,000+ from entries.

    Whine and bitch when the ATA tries to do something positive.

    For the 501c-3 expert it's called reinvesting your earning.

    And no I am not giving my share back to any of you.

    Don
     
  11. Setterman

    Setterman Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we can get $40,000 from the ATA for next years GLG @ Mason?
     
  12. Gapper

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    You're on the scent 'dawg.
     
  13. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    Gapper, the air is so heavy with stink you needn't be a 'dawg to smell it!!
     
  14. Francis Marion

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    Big don, I never said I was an expert, I was just asking. Beyond salaries, utilities, taxes ect, how much does the organization need? Why is so much money available for options or anything else?
     
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    Where do you guys come up with these ideas that "non-profits" aren't allowed to to have income or substantial assets?
     
  17. straightsixes

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    Not an ATA expert.

    However people will complain if they DON'T step up to try something new. People will complain if they DO step up and try something.

    The hope is always that it will build attendance for the future. Did they fail? Maybe. Only time will tell. At least they are trying something themselves rather than just letting other groups supplement the payout structures.

    If one hasn't noticed... a lot of shooters are complainers from the back fence. If one doesn't like it, start a club, work to get into the boards, or find any other way to get in to help out. Maybe your ideas will work. Only one way to find out.
     
  18. trapwife

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    Just for the record, clinics are not down, Leo spent six consecutive days prior to the Grand with back to back classes. We booked as many clinics as we had time for this year and turned down others.
     
  19. smsnyder

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    Is there such a thing as a professional shooter in the ATA?
     
  20. oleolliedawg

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    Karla, it certainly is great to see Leo's clinics continue to succeed. He does a great job as evidenced by shooter satisfaction.

    That said, if clinic attendance falls dramatically as has option participation, I'm sure the ATA will dream up another scheme to supplement that lost income too!!
     
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