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1 VS 1 1/8 wads

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by toad67, Apr 2, 2010.

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  1. toad67

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    Finishing up the last of my claybuster 1oz winchester replacement wads. My local component carrier has switched from claybuster to downrange wads. Can a person use the same 1 oz downrange wad with both a 1 and a 1 1/8 oz load? He says you can and it would make wad storage easier. Thanks in advance.

    Todd Klein
     
  2. BDodd

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    Call Kevin at Down Range for a squared away answer for your needs: Down Range Wads, Kevin Lewis, Nebraska, 402.463.3415.......breakemall.....Bob Dodd
     
  3. Craig12

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    There is a PDF on their website that tells this. I think the DRXL1 replaces the pink win.
     
  4. BDodd

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    I've used, and liked, the DRXL-1, neon green wad for 1 oz loads. I see on their web page there is a DRXL-1, blue wad for 1 1/8 oz loads. They are NOT the same wad used for either load......breakemall.....Bob Dodd
     
  5. Neil Winston

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    Todd, if you use any powder which, for the 1 1/18 oz. loads you plan for, needs anything bigger than about a MEC #28 or equivalent, you are probably going to have trouble with any 1-oz. wad. Sure, with enough wad pressure, you can keep the them closed for a while, but you are setting yourself up for opening a flat of reloads in July and finding shot everywhere except in the shells.

    The reason there are two kind is that they are needed to get the "stack" right to secure an attractive and effective crimp.

    As far as storage goes, the volume taken up by a bag of 1 1/8 oz. loads, should be less that that required for the same number for 1 oz. loads, so having them makes storage easier, doesn't it?

    Neil
     
  6. timb99

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    Try the Downrange DRRT-12, which is a replacement for the Remington TGT-12s wad.

    Use Hodgdon Clays for your 1 ounce loads, and Hodgdon Titegroup for your 1-1/8 ounce loads.

    Clays is a very bulky powder, whereas Titegroup is a very dense powder.

    By doing this, you could potentially use the same wad for both 1 ounce and 1-1/8 ounce loads.
     
  7. short shucker

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    timb99,

    I can use those DRRT-12's for 7/8, 1, and 1 1/8 oz loads just by using the powders you mentioned. It's nice to only have to stock a couple of differnt wads for my 12ga loads.

    ss
     
  8. Neil Winston

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    Tim and ss, that's about as good a reason for choosing one powder over another as I've heard.

    Neil
     
  9. fishguts

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    Get another supplier and stay with the Claybusters...

    Wayne
     
  10. nsguy

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    Neil, I've found that I need about 20% more storage space to keep shot for 1oz loads. Just get too damn many more out of a 25# bag!!!
     
  11. Neil Winston

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    That's a consideration I hadn't thought through, nsguy, and you are of course correct. On the other hand, since wads float their SG must be less than 1 and with lead at 11.34, volume-of-storage calculations must still favor 1 1/8 ounce, since the "cushioning" section of the wad difference is likely to more than even things out.

    I'll do the calculations if you wish. Thank you for the (possible) correction.

    Neil
     
  12. nsguy

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    Don't waste your time on the calculations. I have it all figured out! Just have a designated reloading room of a specific area, and it will fill automaticaly with everything needed! And a lot of stuff you don't need! Then you face the problem of not enough space! Solution, make more space! Problem, filled up that space real fast. Now need MORE space! Solution, buy some used lumber and a backhoe! Make it big enough THIS time and hire out your services to others! I'd love to tear into someones house with a backhoe all in the name of helping them out!!!
     
  13. Harv Shell

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    I guess the short answer would be yes if you are using Tightgroup powder, did it for years.
     
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    toad67,

    Would you put 87 octane gas in a car that requires 93 octane?
     
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    Wayne, ever try Downrange wads? Harv.
     
  16. timb99

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    longshooter

    WTF?

    Maybe Remington is confused.

    They use the TGT-12s wad in both 1 ounce and 1-1/8 ounce factory loads.

    You should call them about it.
     
  17. scooterbum

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    timb99,

    No need to curse.

    The point I am trying to make is; how much shot is residing outside of the shot cup?

    And secondarily, what is more important, effect on target, or effect on home storage space?
     
  18. timb99

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    Answer; not much, if any.

    I figure if Remington is OK using a TGT-12s in their 1-1/8 ounce Nitro 27 factory shells, I'm OK using the Downrange clone of it in my 1-1/8 ounce reloads.

    Nitro 27's are pretty effective on target, wouldn't you agree? Some guy named Harlan Campbell uses them.
     
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    I have been using 1 1/8 wads (Downrange XL Blue or claybuster WAA12 clone white) for both 1 oz. loads as well as 1 1/8 using remington hulls and Clays powder. The 1 oz. seem to load and work just fine...no dished in crimps. Wonder if others have done the same. Regards, Ed
     
  20. SONO MAN

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    Oldgoat, I tried to load 1 oz load in a gun club hulls using claybuster WAA12 clone white but I had to raise the wad guide all the way up so as not to have the crimp pushed down. Did you have to do same thing ? Peter
     
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