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#1 reason for release triggers

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by $$$SHTR, Apr 7, 2010.

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  1. $$$SHTR

    $$$SHTR Member

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    I think a Winchester Model 101 has to be the worlds worst kicker. That thing kicked with 7/8 oz 1150 shells.

    Tomas
     
  2. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    Ruger Red Labels rank high on that list too...
     
  3. DecalDude

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    I heard release triggers were a new excuse when you ran out of pull trigger excuses.

    Jerry
     
  4. biff

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    A KS5 put me in a release trigger!
     
  5. jdsfarms

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    I also vote for the 101 face slappin SOB even a clyde slyde and gooey comb in conjunction with a release wouldn't keep me from flinching.Jerry
     
  6. pheasantmaster

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    Silver Bullets!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. 410 JIM

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    Anybody else flinch with a release, what now?
     
  8. Ahab

    Ahab Well-Known Member

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    Kolar Bear ... why not get that Nod 12 properly fitted

    I happen to own 14 of them at the present time ... and none kick me ... maybe it is because I make them fit properly?
     
  9. short shucker

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    The first three guns listed were enough for me. I owned at least one of each before I learned my lesson. I also owned a KS-5 and it slapped me a bit (enough for me to peddle that one too), but nothing like the 101 or the Red Label.

    I don't know what it is about factory Winchester stocks, but I've never found one that fit me very well.

    ss
     
  10. KEYBEAR

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    Ahab I was thinking you have never shot them ? LOL
     
  11. short shucker

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    That's funny Alf'!

    ss
     
  12. phirel

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    Have you ever considered why the same gun will kick one shooter a lot and not kick another shooter? Could the way a gun fits a shooter be more important than the gun when considering felt recoil?

    Pat Ireland
     
  13. pheasantmaster

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    Pat, specifics such as you addressed are non essential when gun club technology is employed....
     
  14. duckeye

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    I think Pat hit the nail on the head It is the way a gun fits a shooter as to the amount of recoil the shooter will get . Personally I do not think that there is that much difference in 2 3/4 dram and 3 dram load in the same manufacture ammo except with the federal paper which I think will kick the snot out of you.

    Duckeye
     
  15. Ahab

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    Alf99 ... those Mod 12s won a lot of money and prizes for me ... back in the days when I was still a good shot!
     
  16. KEYBEAR

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    Ahab I agree the Model-12 was/is a good old gun and yes I still have one .
     
  17. dverna

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    I do not flinch because of recoil. Recoil has little or no affect. The gun recoils the same with or without a release.

    I doubt many people go to a release trigger because of recoil.

    I can flinch with a release too - but not nearly as much.

    So, the reason is, BRAIN PHARTS!! A disconnect between seeing the bird (or not seeing it when/where "expected") and the act of pulling the trigger.


    Don Verna
     
  18. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    Pat:

    Your observation about gun fit and felt recoil (slyly presented as a question) is a statement of conventional wisdom: the poorer a gun fits, the more likely it is that perceived recoil will be ugly.

    Every gun is a great fit for someone and a terrible fit for someone else.
    Years ago I read somewhere that standard shotgun dimensions were designed for a male about 5' 9" and weighing about 160 pounds. Whether those numbers are accurate or not, mass produced guns are built to specs. which are presumably based on the dimensions of a typical shooter.

    Red Labels and 101's are notorious as hard kickers. I'd be curious to hear the dimensions of owners of either model that can comfortably shoot 200 sporty clay, skeet, or trap targets without getting a nose bleed or otherwise feeling beat up.

    sissy
     
  19. mrskeet410

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    Model 12s? Well maybe Model 12 trapguns kicked, but all the Model 12 skeet guns I shot came with a Cutts, and those were surprising mild kickers.
     
  20. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    Additionally, you could have a perfectly fitted stock cut to your best numbers and still get the snot kicked outa you! Put it on a VERY lightweight 12 ga.fixed breech gun and welcome your new mule to the stable.

    The shotguns weight mixed with a factory type stock guarantees it will kick most shooters. Any 12 ga with a fitted to you stock shooting a 1200 FPS 1-1/8th ounce load has the same amount of recoil as another brand if weight is the same.

    Read Pat & the backwoodsman's (bird executioner) posts again. Hap
     
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