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1 oz VS 1 1/8 oz from the 16 yard line

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  1. linkerman

    linkerman Member

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    Shooting 1 oz of number 8’s at 1200 fps VS 1 1/8 oz of number 8’s at 1145 fps (factory loads both with 2 ¾ dram eq.) from the 16 yard line. Is there any real difference in lead for the 55 fps? Which one would you shoot NOT factoring in any difference in recoil?
     
  2. Trap2

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    11/8OZ @ 1145fps would be my choice just because I like 11/8oz loads for everything... Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  3. 3dram8

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    It would be interesting to take a poll on who shoots what at 16 yards. I would think that the pendulum is definitely swinging towards going lighter for 16's, and that the results of the poll would indicate a majority of shooters would favor 1 ounce especially if reloads are shot. JMO .....Rick
     
  4. vpr80

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    1 oz...shoots lighter...doesn't beat me up as much so I can shoot more rounds per day.
     
  5. TrapCrazy

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    That's my favorite load and speed. 11/8 at 1145. I find the load at 1200 can be tough on me. I also like 1 oz at 1180.
     
  6. michshooter

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    I like 1 oz of 8's from the 16 for practice. Pressure is much lower and recoil is less. I am experimenting with 7/8 oz loads at 1200 also and like the way they smoke the targets with almost no recoil. In warm weather I will use 1 oz of 8's for competition.
     
  7. wolfram

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    The reason you would use the 1 Oz load are cost and recoil. Since you are talking about factory ammo, there is not a cost advantage and you said recoil is not a factor for you. The difference in velocity is completly academic on singles so the choice is going to have to be based on what do you have more confidence in.

    I gotta tell you though that the 1 Oz shells have helped a lot of guys (me included) improve their singles scores because they are more comfortable to shoot. Recoil is a factor and if you don't believe that now you will in time.
     
  8. GOT A PAIR

    GOT A PAIR TS Member

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    Six replys and no one answered his quertion?

    Their is less than 1/2 inch. diff.
     
  9. timb99

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    Lead difference is inconsequential.

    Further, even with factory loads, Neil Winston has tested it, and there's a wide range of variation of muzzle velocities from the published number on the box, not only from manufacturer to manufacturer, but from lot to lot.

    SAAMI tolerances are +/- 90 fps.

    So don't worry about lead.

    I think you'll find the 1-1/8 ounce loads, even at lower published velocity, have heavier recoil.

    And you don't NEED to make up for less shot by having faster muzzle velocity. I shoot 1 ounce of 8-1/2's at about 1165 fps. They break singles targets just dandy.
     
  10. lancelot

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    I am much more comfortable, mind wise, with 1 1/8 of 8's at the 16.

    I've got a pretty good supply of Centurion 1 oz, 8's (1200) and Centurion 1 1/8 oz , 8's (1145) and I can't feel the difference in recoil, but I feel better armed with the latter.

    All of this might just be in my mind, but it's another worry gone.

    Hope to see some of y'all in Florida this week.

    Ron Ireland
     
  11. Conn. Man

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    I shoot 1-1/8 oz for everything.I need all the mass of shot I can get to break targets.Recoil is no issue,and economics isnt either shooting registered targets!!!!!!!!.
    Sandy Holehouse.
     
  12. hunter44

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    1 oz. of 8's or 8 1/2's @ approx. 1150 fps for me for doubles & 16's. Pattern your 1 oz. load at approx. 32 yds. & if you have a good even pattern with no holes why add more shot? It will only yield more recoil.
     
  13. otnot

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    I doubt you could tell the difference.
     
  14. BDodd

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    I shot about equal numbers of 100s at 16 yards with 1 oz of 8s at 1180fps (409 pellets) and 7/8 oz of 9s (512 pellets) at about 1220fps. I don't want it to sound like I had too many 100s to count but both loads were very effective.....Bob Dodd
     
  15. DTrykow

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    1oz vs 1 1/8 oz? .01 cent per shell. 1 1/8 has .01cent more shot than 1 oz.
    other than that no other difference. Shot straight with both loads. Dave T.
     
  16. darr

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    In competition I shoot 11/8 of 8.5s for 16 yard with a mod. choke.For 20.5 yard line I shoot 11/8 of 8 with a mod. choke.I practice with 1 oz or 7/8 oz with a full choke.The breaks with the 11/8 oz are more spectacular even with the open choke.However I shoot much more practice so the cummulative effects of recoil are less.I am a very ordinary trapshooter but those are my thoughts.

    Darr
     
  17. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    I think one ounce is adequate for the 16 yd. line.
     
  18. Old Cowboy

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    No, there's no real difference in lead
     
  19. canada

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    I was in a singles shoot-off at this years Grand and ran out of light 1 1/8 shells at 175. 1 1/8 is the only shell I ever use for singles, but I had a few boxes of 1 oz shells for doubles in the trunk. It was me and Foster Bartholow shooting, and I asked if he could lend me a box, assuming he was using lights. Well I found out he was using handicap shells so 1 oz it was.

    Point is, I didn't notice any difference really, other than the recoil felt soft in the first few shots. No difference in lead, and I didn't notice any in breaks.

    Pat Lamont
     
  20. RunGunIPSC

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    When all the marbles are on the table & you are going for the big win,you put every single pellet you legally can into the air. That means 1 1/8 oz of at least # 8. Slow the velocity down to 1000-1120 if the recoil at 1145 is too much.
     
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