Sounds like what are usually referred to as Promotional Loads. Usually found on sale around the opening of dove season. I have some Remington "Game Loads" marked just as you have described. I have used them for trap & sporting clays. Seem to work OK. John
I got these Winchester AA, advertised as light handicap, but-@ short caps--kinda think pellet count is more important than size & who needs 1290 for short caps?
Those shells pop up from time to time as close-outs. I bought some several years ago at a very good price. I don't know if they still make them. They kicked pretty hard.
That's my go to load for sporting clays, and I've broken some very good scores with them. Never could find anything to complain about with those shells. Garrett
Tried the Winchester promotional shells and was not impressed. Cheap shell. The Winchester Grey Light Handicap one oz at 1290 fps shell is excellent for second bird of doubles. Gets there quick.
Wern't/aren't the Remington Nitro 1 oz shells rated at 1290? I bought some of those and found them quite effective at 26 yards once upon a time.....breakemall
No where do I see that these are said to be promo loads. W-W AA and Rem N-27 both make a one ounce load at 1290 which is in fact a 3 dram load in this weight. I have used both of these loads for handi caps, turkey shoots and sporting clays and they both tend to pattern very well and while they are snappy the recoil is nothing like a 1 1/8 super handy cap load.
I shoot that shell and others just like it, the AA's, Nitros and even the Federal game load are a very good load for anything you want to shoot. I shoot all the disciplines and would not hesitate at any target presentation with this load. They pattern great, low recoil and they get there right now.
Try'em and I think you'll be impressed.
Phil,
Those are nice shells. I have shot them and as described they are a quality shell. Sort of a oddball for Winchester and you don't see them all the time. I have used those shells for the sport of FITASC where 1 oz. is mandated and the targets are ridiculous. The shells should be a grey hull. If that is the case then enjoy them! They will work fine for you at handicap distances.
They are a bit sporty on the recoil side but probably similar to a 1 1/8 load at around a bit over 1200 fps.
They really obliterate short caps targets with an IM choke. It was hot for April @ a shoot I was at today the temp snuck up to 96 & I scratched after 50 targets in caps. It will be a learning experience for me in the Fl heat. But this load is terrific.
iWondering what would the recoil of these 1 oz loads @1290, compare to 118 oz @ 1200 FPS</i>
From the classic recoil/momentum formula:
- 1oz @ 1290 in an 8# gun is ~16½ ft-pounds
- 1-1/8oz @ 1200, 8# gun is ~17½ ft-pounds
There's not a lot of difference, but noticeable.
Bob
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