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1-1/4 ounce for Trap ?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Hammer1, Dec 18, 2012.

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  1. Hammer1

    Hammer1 Active Member

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    Given the very real possibility that some shooter's 99s would have been 100 Straights except for a gaping hole in the pattern...

    Shouldn't we lift the maximum allowed load back to 1-1/4 ounce of shot ?

    For me, that would be 88s that might have been 89s.

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  2. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

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    You already have people who do it now, they just dont get caught
     
  3. Steve W

    Steve W Well-Known Member

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    I thought we are talking about going lighter loads to eliminate those endless shoot offs. LOL
     
  4. Tron

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    And people say I'm a Troll.
     
  5. TD1958

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    1 1/2 ouces of kentucky 9's works better. LOL Tim
     
  6. hmb

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    It seems you can shoot what ever you like, because there is no enforcement of the existing ATA rules regarding shot weight. HMB
     
  7. 7mag

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    I have seen a buddy of mine get checked at a shoot. He plays alot of games & shoots some big shells. But at that registered shoot he was shooting factory Remington handicap trap nitros.
     
  8. Shooting Coach

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    Several years ago, for gits and shiggles, I loaded some 1200 fps 1 1/4 oz shells.

    They did not give any better Trap breaks than my old 1 oz 1250 load. They DID kick.

    A one time trial. 36 grams REALLY eats a bag of shot.
     
  9. Hitapair

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    Would also accelerate the onset of flinching!
     
  10. ric3677

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    Why stop there?

    Rick in MT
     
  11. drgondog

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    Try Internat'l Trap loads of 24 grams/ 3/4 oz shot hard 7 1/2 04 8's at 1350fps.

    Bunker shooters crush hard int'l targets at 50+ yards (first shot)with these loads.
     
  12. 1oldtimer

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    3 1/4DE 1- 1/4# 7 was the standard trap load for many years.
    Clyde
     
  13. Hauxfan

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    Just what I need! Something that is going to recoil more. ;-)

    Hauxfan!
     
  14. Dennis DeVault

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    Got to tell a little story on myself. I grew up shooting buddy shoots in Ohio and did not know what a day time or registered ubtil I was almost 16. But several years ago I loaded a real great shell for handicap in the winter time in Northeast Ohio. 18 grains of Nitro 100 in a Remington STS case, green duster wad and 1 ounce of 5's. That was one of the hardest hitting shells from the 27 I ever had. Very soft on recoil and you could draw smoke off of a target even in the coldest conditions. Won a couple of non registered money shoots and never did get checked. There was not much noise, little recoil and no one every looked twice. OK I told on myself again, just had to come clean. Merry Christmas to everyone.

    Dennis DeVault
     
  15. Baber

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    You're going the wrong way. When Olympic shooters went to 1 oz scores went up! They went to 7/8 oz to get the scores to go down.

    T
     
  16. drgondog

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    The Bunker guys also introduced a one shot game for Olympics to go with doubles - and still running 100's with 24 grams.

    I hunted wood pigeons many times in Ireland and England with both 28 and 24 gram 7 1/2's International loads. They will stone a wood pigeon a long way off. They will stone a clay from 27 yards and stone a much harder international clay target at 60 yards...

    The primary adjustment I had to make for all trap was to go to a tight IM or F for both barrels.
     
  17. Avaldes

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    Everyone seems to forget that the format changed in Bunker, along with the payload weight. From 1.25-1.125-1.0-.846 ounces. Must have been brutal shooting 200 Int'l birds with 1.25 loads at 1350 ft/sec!
     
  18. eightbore

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    drgondog, what is the "one shot game" you refer to?
     
  19. drgondog

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    eightbore - the Internat'l Trap now includes competition in 'standard bunker -single target but two shots permitted per target', Doubles, and 'standard bunker - single target but only one shot permitted'. The latter is used for shoot offs also at the Gold, Silver, Bronze finalist stage.

    The ISU always does this when straights are broken routinely. Went from 1 1/4 to 3/4 oz within about 10 years, then Doubles (tow birds/two shots) added, then Singles - one shot per bird was added.

    I tried the latter for the firat time last month and broke a 15, since have move into the '20' range by just 'see the bird, shoot the bird' again. I was being too cautious which a.) I know better, and b.) never works for me.

    Having said that the DGC has perhaps the toughest shooting background in the West and EU. Shooting in Europe almost always is against a green/grey 'tarp'. Ours is over water to a mixed river bank and dark treeline beyond that. Hard to find a soft focus and wind always at least 10mph and frequently 25.

    Regards,

    Bill

    Regards,

    Bill
     
  20. slide action

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    drgondog, 24 grams is closer to 7/8 oz. not 3/4.
     
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