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1 1/16 shot loads

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by slkslk, Mar 16, 2013.

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  1. slkslk

    slkslk TS Member

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    I am loading 12ga winchester AA shells with 18.4gn of reddot and 1 1/16ozshot load with WAA claybuster wad. Anyone have any comments on this load? I have never seen a recipie for 1 1/16oz before. Wonder if I should have any concerns. I use to load 1 1/8shot with 19gn of reddot and a waa claybuster wad with good success.

    Give me some feedback
    Steve
     
  2. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

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    I used to shoot 1 1/16 oz factory loads, never knew the difference between then and 1 1/8 ... I can't remember the name of the company that made them, but they were good shells ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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    If you use a winchester primer in your 1 1/8 load you are one full grain above Alliant's max listed load which is 18 gr. If you want a load that fast you would be better served with green dot. The pressure on your 19 gr load of red dot would be way up there!
     
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    WPT,

    You know why we use 1 1/8 oz don't you?
     
  5. Dave P

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    WPT: I am sure he does but I gave some thought to 1 1/16 oz. loads too at one time. The purpose being the elimination to two loads. Never did try it but I can't see why it wouldn't be a viable all around load. Shooting ATA may alter one's feelings.
     
  6. AveragEd

    AveragEd Well-Known Member

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    If you reload using a recipe for 1-1/8 ounce loads using hard shot, you actually are loading 1-1/16 ounce shells. All shot bushings are calibrated for soft shot, which is heavier than hard shot, so hard shot yields 1-1/16 ounce in those bushings.

    Ed
     
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    Not going to get into an argument over the matter. Just saying I've had some of my best patterning results with 1 1/16oz loads. Go ahead and use 1 1/8 data, as long as your not shooting a low pressure load to begin with they should work great.

    Robert
     
  8. JACK

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    I doctored my extra one ounce bar to drop 1-1/16 by weight. A few less pellets makes for a better crimp. But maybe like Ed says, I am really at a higher number of pellets anyway. I like the 1-1/16 because of felt recoil. less by a significant "feel" amount.
     
  9. Star4Ever

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    I am loading 1 1/16 oz 7 1/2 loads in Win AA and Rem Gun Clubs. I have an adjustable charge bar on my MEC 9000H and the adjustable charge bar allows me to fine tune my load to produce a great and consistent crimp. The result was 1 1/16oz. Works fine. The difference between 1 1/18 and 1 1/16 oz in terms of BB's is very few.

    For AA HS with 1 1/16 7 1/2 here is my load
    Win 209 primer
    Downrange DRA-12 or CB-1118 wad
    17.6g CLAYS
    AA HS Hull.

    Nice load that patterns well and looks good as far as crimp is concerned.
     
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    Great load and even corrects buckling issues some reloaders have with new style AA's!!
     
  11. shot410ga

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    Cut up different shells from different companies, You will be surprised at what constitutes a 1 1/8 load.
     
  12. W.P.T.

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    Matt,

    Because its not legal to use 1 1/4 ... Have a good one ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  13. bluskyshooter

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    AA-HS hulls seem to be the way to go - if you are looking for 1-1/16 oz loads. Probably due to the slightly lower volume inside the hull. I get perfect crimps with AA hulls and 1-1/16 of shot (scale weight verified) using the DR Versalite wad and also the OEM Fig8 wad. I am sure other 1-1/8 wads would work as well.
     
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    What Ed said. Especially if you are using a MEC loader.
     
  15. 1oldtimer

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    I like the 1-3/16 ounce # 6 loads. Grinds targets at the 32-34 yd. line
    Clyde
     
  16. W.P.T.

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    1.5 oz works even better but after a box of shells you start drooling all over yourself and even you don't know what you are trying to say ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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    My 1-1/2 game loads come with a written caution and a price from my Dentist.
    LOL

    Ajax
     
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    1 1/16 oz. loads seemed to be almost totally overlooked in this country whereas in the UK and Continent it is the standard shot load as is the 1 1/8 load in the U.S. I switched to 1 1/16 oz loads about 25 years ago as my "heavy" shot charge for clays (trap, skeet, sporting). I have loaded with PW equipment since 1971 and when PW offered the 1 1/16 oz bushing (5.5) I have never loaded anything heavier. As for a load with this shot charge in a AA hull, Win 209 primer, CB WAA12 equivalent wad and 17.6 gr. Red Dot has always performed very well. I notice a decrease in recoil with no change in target crushing ability even when playing games such as Annie Oakley or Back Up. With this load in either a Ljutic Mono or Simson pre-war Pigeon gun I find that as long as the target is not in the weeds it will be broken if pointed right. I also use this same load for Sporting in a Perazzi MX8 with fixed chokes. With the long history of success with this load I probably won't be loading 1 1/8 oz. loads anytime soon. Best of luck in finding what works best for you and your equipment. Lyle
     
  19. 1oldtimer

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    I think it was RIO who loaded the 1-1/16 ounce loads.
    Clyde
     
  20. Tom Strunk

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    I believe Kent were the shells loaded with. 1- 1/16 from UK.
     
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