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I've had it with NASCAR

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I've been a Winston Cup fan longer than I care to remember, but I've had it with the sport I once loved so much, that has evolved into a riduculous circus event. What a joke this great sport has become. First of all we can no longer refer to "Winston Cup" since tobacco is no longer socially acceptable - then we fell into the restrictor plate era which has turned the super speedways into bumper car arenas - now foreign cars are running in a race that has, at its roots, a heroic and colorful american historical period of prohibition, american-made cars modified to deliver the goods. do what you had to do to have the fastest car. lastly the hype of "the show" where the aging 'has-beens' (eg chubby checker) who command center stage overshadow the importance of the race and painfully delay the start. The last straw is the COT - this is the demise of NASCAR as we know it - one set of templates - you can't tell one car from the next - it used to be Ford vs. Chevy vs. Mopar - brand identification - now what? Now it's all about personalities (the drivers) who could be driving or flying or riding anything as long as the price is right, it wouldn't matter. And by the way, enough of Jr. already, he'll never, ever be the driver / personality that his father was - and don't get me started on Toyota - bah! What tradition or history can toyota put on the table that would justify the intrusion of this foreign maker into our north american great race. (like I don't know the answer). We are witnessing the very rapid evolution of the NASCAR race into a 'product', which has been 'branded' and 'targeted' to 'markets' (no one is spared - children, dogs, eskimos) and 'packaged' for 'mass consumption'. end result - regression to the lowest common denominator. Well, I feel better already!!! Trevor Dawe.
 
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Nascar reminds me a lot of trapshooting.
It was once great at it's inception, but as time went on
it became a rather monotonous/boring endeavor,
kind of like nascar,no sense watchin the first 190 laps,
just tune into the last 10, and you've pretty much seen the race.
That's why i've switched to watching SuperCross, growing by leaps and bounds,
even Joe Gibbs has gotten involved in supercross as of late, i liken supercross to the current sporting clays,much more action/variety,not a prepackaged media carnival like nascar has become.Much more exciting for participant and viewer alike,trapshooting,like nascar,is the same thing over and over,and over,i even heard the announcers talking about the daytona 500 like a highway drive,just kick back and take it easy,it's going to be a long drive, grab some potato chips or something.My thoughts are,why even run 500 miles?
Isn't it just consumes large quantities of foreign oil, etc. thousands of dollars in tires,for what? to drive around in a circle,when not much happens until the last 10 laps,with supercross,the start is much more even,since they start in a line side by side,rather than front to rear.
I'll stick with Sporting Clays,Five Stand,FITASC,and SuperCross,
let the old school stick with trapshooting and nascar.
Unlimited Hydroplanes are quite awesome as well,they need to get more coverage,participation,and race sites however.
 
#9 ·
Trevor...I couldn't agree with you more!!......it's a big snore...and as I watch the COT's race around the track I have a feeling I've seen that profile before....cross a '53 Plymouth Business Coupe with a Kaiser Henry J and it's the COT!!....boy, the good ole boys have come a long way haven't they? I guess I'll have to buy a copy of Smokey Yunick's bio...where he describes in detail, his reasons for hating Bill France...SR. and JR....whom he considered bully's and pirates....when you have a dictatorship running things you get mediocrity!!!

Ron Burr
 
#11 ·
If you dont like Nascar try watching AMA superbike or European based MotoGP motorcycle racing. These bikes can reach speeds exceding 200 mph and lean into turns at such extremes angles that their knees scrap the track as a patch of rubber the size of the palm of a hand on each wheel keep them from crashing.
Speed channel will be showing some of these races starting in a couple weeks. Watch for American riders Nicky Hayden, Colin Edwards, and John Hopkins in the MotoGP series from Europe. You wont be disappointed! Don D.
 
#12 ·
NASCAR was best in the 1960's when almost anything went.

Take off the restrictor plates; allow fuel injected engines; let 'em race and rub off some paint.

Yesterday was a farce. The last ten laps had more yellow flags than the rest of the entire race. You can't tell who's who unless you know the sponsors. They all look like they came from the same cookie cutter. Too many commercials, and it looked like the whole thing was packaged by Disney.

Those clowns who don't know how to drive, will learn very quickly, when they get airborne at 210 mph.

Best,
Dennis
 
#13 ·
I seem to remember that Winston had held a news conference a few years ago, that they were no longer going to sponsor the Winston Cup because of the lack of funds. The Law suites and the outcome of said suites had caused them to withdrawal from being the main sponsor of the cup due to the lack of funds.

Nextel stepped in and now since Sprint owns Nextel, it is only common sense that the parent company would have their name on that cup series.

You still have the Beer and Tool series, for those who don't watch...

Busch car and the Craftsman truck series.

I used to own a few (roundy rounds) as they call it, in a much smaller scale. I had a few cars running at Flat Rock Speedway in Flat Rock MI. It was fun but costly. My driver would not and in some cases could not keep the car out of the wall and the late nights on the frame rack and in the paint booth got old quick.


Jerbear
 
#20 ·
The truck series is a joke too!...real trucks have a separate cab and bed..and you cant tell one from the other there either...next thing coming is a vending machine..insert coin, paint it , race it...it wil eventually be like a tourist trap go-kart track for people with money to blow...it sux
 
#21 ·
What about the gun companies that have feed Nascar, but won't contribute to their own friggin sport. Remington has dropped many top shooters from it's shell program to feed Nascar. When was the last time Beretta gave a Jubilee to a shoots winner, unlike last years Texas Motor Speedway.(15,000 retail) or something like that. Now is Glock in there too? Nothing against Nascar though.
 
#23 ·
well...I think some of the steel on the roof and trunk lid have to come from the respective manufacturers but the new Chevy NASCAR engine is a completely new design (see a recent issue of HOT ROD for a full write-up) incorporating all the measurments and performance parameters allowed by NASCAR which will make it competitive with the MOPAR, FORD and TOYOTA engines, which of course bear no resemblence to anything those manufacturers sell to the public.
 
#25 ·
The got the purse somewhere - a lot of people like what they see. I remember when the cars went 210 and were basically unmodified stock cars. NASCAR popularity is dropping. They are not filling all seats. Maybe people are getting tired of the merry go round with so few profiting in the events. The good old boy stuff is fading. I would like to see it get back to real stock cars or at least stock car profiles. Maybe a safer race frame but a true stock body. To limit speed they could set a minimum weight and maximum engine. It would be great to see the days again when the winner lapped the field. I quit buying tickets after the 2nd restrictor plate race. They just lost the zeal. Were you at the track when Petty rolled down the wall on his tail? I was also there when several lost their lives because they went too fast and became airborne off of turn 4. The races need to be safer than they were before all of the rule changes but they need to be stock cars or race cars. Keeping the field together is just not much fun.
 
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