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Have you ever seen a gun mount like this before?

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#1 ·
I was shooting trap last night and while trap shooting, I generally don't care what anybody does as long as everyone is shooting safely. I am by no means implying that this shooter was doing anything in an unsafe manner but I ain't never seen a shooter mount a gun to shoot trap like this before.

He gets his foot position set at each post, loads his round, then he takes the gun and he points it almost perfectly straight up in the air then bounces the butt pad into his shoulder like it's a pogo stick then every so slightly brings the gun down over the trap house then calls pull. I ain't never seen nothing like that before in all my days of trap shooting.

Have you ever seen it? I am not one to say if anything is right or wrong but I've never seen anything like that before. I guess I have to give him style points. Just never seen anything like it.
 
#3 ·
It's a European pigeon shooter's technique. Got a pic somewhere of an Italian Olympic trap shooter pointing at the sky; that I'll be looking for :(
 
#5 ·
He raised the shotgun about seventy degrees toward the sky, slowly brought it down to his shoulder, leaned forward and, after a moment, yelled “pull.”
 
#8 ·
I have seen this with younger shooters who were coached to do this. They mount the gun straight up in the air and then rotate down to the trap house only to move the gun again and place it in their shoulder pocket. One of the most bizarre and pointless things I have ever seen someone taught to do. I'd like to hear a full explanation from the coach, and what the benefits are on this, to justify teaching it. It just proves the point that if your taught to do something that makes absolutely no sense you will only get better at it as time goes on. Bad habits can become part of anything we do, but to teach them is ridiculous.

I have seen this in Colorado and Arizona during ATA Events. When I saw this on the squad ahead of me at the Autumn Grand I just shook my head. After the event was over 2 of the people on the squad told me that it was very distracting and the squad came to a complete stop during this performance of nonsense. I had just watched it and agreed.


It does remind me of Baseball Pitchers who do weird things like touch their hat, rub each eyebrow, lick their fingers only to wipe them off on their uniform, check all the imaginary base runners, adjust their cup while shaking a fart down their leg and then throwing a wild pitch!
 
#10 ·
Drew is right. It's an old European technique that is used very effectively by bunker shooters in their pre-shot maneuver. Olympic trap allows 10 seconds for the shooter to fire after the previous shooters' target is declared dead or hit. Most use all of the 10 seconds. Spanky is exaggerating a little but don't knock it if you haven't tried it. But in benchrest or diaper trap the quicker you shoot the better. Two entirely different games.

Paul A. Bobby
 
#12 ·
Old guy I hear ya but I ain't exaggerating about bouncing the gun on his shoulder like a pogo stick and sloooooowly bringing that smoke stick down to the trap house. I'm not making fun by any means I have my own quirks I guess. But I'm a people watcher in between rounds but couldn't help to pick up on that.
 
#17 ·
Ever see someone shoot right and left-handed on the same trap? There was a gentleman from Maryland who shot certain posts right-handed and the rest left-handed and did so pretty well. I don't recall his name but he took clinics I hosted with Nora Ross and Phil Kiner. When the other students and the instructor noticed what he was doing, they stared in disbelief of what they thought they saw.

Ed
 
#19 ·
There is a 4H coach teaching his kids this method at our club, and I have on occasion been assigned a squad with a grown man that doe's this as well. He also incorporates the extreme forward lean bit, complete with both knees bent into sort of a squat, then he looks to the left, then to the right, then straight ahead and calls for the target with a pullllll that must last for 4 or 5 seconds.I think its funny, but try to avoid his squad if possible. No such thing as a quick 25 with this guy. lol!
 
#21 ·
The rookies in our youth team are taught this method as a way to ensure the gun stays in the pocket when they bring the gun to their hold point. My son actually started this way. After a while,they learn to find their hold point without the high start, but it works in the beginning. Some of our rookies are shooting in the 80's already.
 
#24 ·
We have a fellow at our Club who goes through what seems to be an interminably long routine before he mounts his gun. Position the gun, look out onto the field, prepare to mount, mount and lock it in, wait a few seconds to make sure it's locked in, and then call for the target. I shot 1 squad with him and will never do so again if I can help it. His routine destroys the rhythm and timing a squad gets into. I stood behind a squad he was on and timed him. From the moment the fellow to his left finished his shot, Mr. Deliberate Routine took between 30 and 45 seconds to mount and another 10-15 to shoot. It doesn't sound like a long time, but when you are on the line, it's forever.

Gene in Illinois
 
#25 ·
I have seen this a few times.

My wife goes up with her shotgun at about a 45 degree angle, hits her shoulder pocket comes down and calls pull. No lingering, up down pull, does this very quickly.

Say what ya want, but, she shoots in the high 80's in Sporting clays.
 
#26 ·
In a Kay Ohye video, he suggested mounting with the gun pointing up, while standing straight up, then rotating forward. This way, the motion of following a rising bird would be a natural standing up motion. If you are standing straight up when you call pull, then you will have to lean back somewhat to follow the bird up.

I do this (45 degrees, not straight up, no remount), because it feels natural to me, and makes sense. But, it has made little difference in my score since I started doing it.

I suppose in Olympic trap, where the bird could go up quite high, you might want to be able to rotate upwards quite a bit without ever leaning back.
 
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