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How and When yardage reductions

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#1 ·
Two questions...
Regarding the new yardage reductions being offered. I'm a new shooter, 8/11 first shoot, shooting from the 21 with an avg of 90.8% in my last 11 shoots (one low score discarded because it was more than 10% below my avg.), in the central zone.

By the new rules, I am qualified for a 2 yd deduction I believe. (please correct me if I am wrong)

1. How and when should I expect to be notified?

2. What would you do in my shoes? (if you want to look up my stats at ATA before you answer, Chip Porter, IL)

I'm very interested in the opinions regarding #2.

Regards,
Chip
 
#2 ·
Chip I looked at ur averages from this year so far. You had a 95 in caps in October and a 96 in November. I would think the 96 score would have gained you a 1/2 yard if not a whole yard correct? You have to shoot at 1000 targets without a punch to get a reduction. I would not expect a reduction this year.




Jason in PA
 
#3 ·
Jason,
My 95 earned me a half yard also as it won the event with enough shooters to qualify. It puts me at the 21 with the 1/2 yard from the win with 96.

Thanks for clarifying that I'm not eligible for a reduction because of the punches.

Regards,
Chip
 
#5 ·
Chip,

For this one-time two-yard reduction offer, I'm not entirely certain that your earned yardage will necessarily exempt you from consideration. If your Delegate looks closely at your record, he might decide to not extend the offer to you, but based on average alone, you should qualify.

Keep in mind that this "one-time offer" is being done outside the normal review process, so, like I mentioned above, I'm not certain earned yardage will disqualify you. (But it may.)




Scott Hoover

ATA Delegate, Utah
 
#10 ·
Sorry Scooter ol' boy, but even without considering your 13th Place in the GAH I don't think I'd approve you for a reduction. Your 99% handicap average in 2012 isn't doing much to persuade me I'm wrong either. ;)


stokinpls,

I doubt that those who don't get an offer will get any sort of letter. Go to shootata.com and navigate to your state's page. Your Delegate's name and contact info are there.

I haven't wanted to call Kathy yet. I assume she has plenty to do. But maybe I'll call her tomorrow and get some answers.
 
#13 ·
Just got off the phone with Kathy at the ATA office. Here's how the process is going.

A duplicate database was created. All codes (except "L") were removed. This was done because certain codes won't allow reductions.

If you are a current paid member, and have shot any handicap targets, and are below your Zone break point, you will get a 2-yard reduction.

The only parameters that are being used to determine eligibility for this offer are: "Paid member" and "Below break point average."

The reduction will show up on the Shooter Information Center and then a new card, reflecting the reduction, will be sent out.

The new yardages will then be loaded in to the original database, so any codes that existed (D, K, H, Y, etc) will now be back "On." You won't have to re-request your "D" or "K" code.

There are approximately 21,000 shooters who are eligible for this offer. So it was decided that sending a list out to the Delegates for review (which I originally thought was the plan) was not cost effective.

Hope this helps clear up some of the questions.
 
#16 ·
Earl asked: "Is it based on 2011 averages?"

A friend was offered the 2 yard reduction because he is a life member (obviously paid up) and the last target year he shot any handicap targets was 2008.

Chip, there is no rule of thumb you have to decide for yourself to accept or refuse the reduction.
 
#17 ·
Earl,

It is not based just on 2011 targets.

And, if you are a Life Member (so you are shown as "Paid," of course) and you haven't shot for a few years, and your handicap average was below the Zone break point, you will be offered the reduction.

Like I said, the parameters are "Paid member" and "average below the Zone break point." That's all they are looking at.
 
#21 ·
Jon,

Offered. But the way reductions are done, they appear in the Shooter Information Center before you get a new card in the mail. So, in the SIC it looks like you "got" the reduction, but it is still subject to the shooters acceptance, rejection, and in this case, modification (1 yard instead of 2).
 
#25 ·
Chip

It looks like you have a 2 yard reduction (or 1 yard if you choose), in the mail. The ATA website has you now at the 19 yard line. As to whether you take the reduction, yes, that is a personal decision. Question is, do you feel competitive at the 21? If not, it sounds like you may be more competitive at the 20 or 19. Interesting dilemma.

Bill Radwan
 
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