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One gun (what gun) for Trap, Skt, Sporting, Bunker

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#1 ·
So we agree it is nice to be able to shoot multiple disciplines. Assuming you are of a competitive nature and would like to enjoy success in each discipline to some degree what gun would you buy if were looking for an "all-rounder"?

I'd go for a 30" choked Perazzi MX8 (or similar model).

Are there benefits to "one" gun?
 
#2 ·
Truly ONE gun (ie: one barrel) is bit tricky but I am sure that you can do it all pretty well is a 32" O/U. Get one one like a K Pro-Sporter or P MX2000/3 with adjustable comb and rib and you're 95% of the way there. However, add a 34" single barrel and then you're set! Or at least that's what I am planning on doing.
 
#7 ·
I have a 32" O/U Caesar Guerini Impact coming that may be very close to filling the bill. I even left it pull/pull so I could shoot it everywhere. While American Trap is the shotgun sport I love I still enjoy shooting Skeet, Sporting Clays, Bunker (when available and wobble when you can't find true Bunker)on occasions for fun. I used to have a 32" Beretta 682 Gold X O/U that performed pretty well across the board until I finally wore it out. You want a real hoot try shooting Skeet with a Trap O/U choked tight and tighter, talk about SMOKING a bird.

--- Chip King ---
 
#8 ·
If Browning would custom build one (and for enough $$'s I think they'll do just about anything)I'd commission a new Superposed ST-100 with 32" (or maybe even 33") bbl's and top grade choke tubes. With the ST's adjustable POI feature it would be a superior gun for all the above menrioned disciplines.....I just don't think it would be worth the $30K+ they'd charge for one with wood as good as they put on mine back in 1979....for C$3750!

Ron Burr
 
#9 ·
Chip beat me to it. Just picked up a 32" Guerini Impact for shooting all the clay sports. It is very easy to make all the adjustments and they are well marked so you can return to your settings for each sport. Gun really fits me well right out of the box.

So far I have only shot Trap and Sporting Clays, Trap scores are comparable to what I usually shoot with my Trap gun and I was making some clays shots I usually have difficulty with. I kind of like the idea of one gun, becomes very familiar and comfortable, remains to be seen if I can be effective with one gun.

John






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#11 ·
WHAT ? One gun ? WHY ? I didn't think that was possible!!!!!!!! Man that takes away a lot of the fun of shooting multiple types of trap skeet etc and the need to buy a new gun for each and then a better gun for each and then a top of the line gun for each then your buddy buys a better top of the line gun so you need to get one better......... NOW we're talkin - NOW THAT'S FUN! HA
 
#12 ·
In my opinion. If you really want to shot your best in any of these sports a gun designed for that sport it the way to go. You do not a a professional golfer out on the golf course with only one club in his bag for all 18 holes. Each club has a specific use just as each shotgun was made for a specific use. hat's my two sense.
 
#14 ·
This is a no-brainer!

K-80 with 2 sets of barrels and a couple of extra butt stocks.

Barrel #1 set up for skeet with sub-gauge tubes
Barrel #2 set up for trap and sporting -- lots of choke tubes

Stock #1 --- for skeet and sporting
Stock #2 --- for trap


You could of course do the same thing with a Perazzi if you like.
 
#17 ·
About 1985, I bought a Beretta 682X Trap with 32" low step rib barrels. It was purchased from Beretta USA for $1200.00. Since then, I have shot all normal disciplines with this setup. It has been a wonderful NSCA gun. In the early days, this gun was among the first 32" guns used in this sport. For International Skeet, I had an identical set of barrels cut to 28". My Briley sub gauge tubes are fitted to both sets of barrels. Either set of barrels is suitable for American skeet. The original Monte Carlo stock was just a bit high for me, so, many years ago, I replaced it with the International Trap stock. Recently, this stock was replaced with a Wenig Crossover stock. Sure, I have used and owned other competition guns, but I continue to return the the old 682X. Could I gain a bird here and there if I used a separate gun for each game? I doubt it. I have tried and it just hasn't happened.
 
#20 ·
I think it partly depends on how much money you want to spend. I have a 687EELL Beretta, skeet. Over the last 12 years, I've bought an un-single bbl, a Trap Doubles bbl, and a 32" sporting barrel, to go along with the tubed gun. Only one required a little judicious sanding of the forend iron to fit perfectly. All told, including the new tube set in '95, I've spent $6,500. I'm AA at the 16yd line, 23.5 handicap, and B in Doubles. AA in skeet, and suck at Sporting due to male color blindness (in the woods I lose a lot of birds).
I have recently ordered a Kolar All-Around Combo, a brand new offering from Kolar. I'll get #35 in the run. This from an inheritance. The gun will come with a 30" carrier bbl tube set, an unsingle 34", and a 32" Doubles bbl. All have adjustable ribs. The 32" bbl is intended for Trap Doubles and Sporting Clays. Retail is over $21,000, but if you order through one of their few dealers, it should come in at around $18,000. No, I'm not rich. Remember I said I'm getting this through inheritance from my Mother.
John
 
#22 ·
Time and time again..we place the arrow before the Indian.. Any gun.. if it fits the shooter correctly.. AND matches his or her dynamics..will do the job..and do it well.. Look at Kim Rhodes and her 26" MX12.. Bunker,Olympic skeet.. guess it would work for ATA doubles and singles too.. The proper dynamics for a fantastic shooter.. Years ago.. many a great shooter did remarkable things with a Winchester model 12 or a 870 pump..

To date.. my do it all shotgun is my MX10..with a ultralight 31.5" barrel chokes .028/.038 by Tom Wilkinson At 1.36KG.. the 3 step rib barrel has done everything I've asked of it..and never let me down.. The gun also sports an old model left handed PFS stock set up as right handed.. with a VDT wooden comb..

The only other gun that has been time proven is my 30" Flodman with screw chokes..It just feels home anywhere and the 30" barrels are now more than long enough for me..

Fit and balance are the issues here.. not how much the gun costs.. I've seen excellent young shooters do wonders with a Mossberg 500 pump.. Until some old geeser tells them it can't be done.. many a young shooter just goes out and does it.. The key is simple.. put some lead on the target.. and it will break.. Remember the story of fugly.. Cost a young know it all shooter $100 bill to learn the lesson..

This 9478 Stevens shotguns is proudly known as FUGLY.. And Fugly shoots quite well..Back then.. I did too.. All Good.. Mike
 
#24 ·
I wasn't trying to one-up anyone. The story is as follows. My 87 year old Mother died this past November. She'd never had more than two nickels to rub together but her house was paid for. When she died, I asked my wife for permission (don't we all????) to buy a used Kolar Combo, in the $6,500 range. She insisted that my Mother would be proud if I bought a new one, as she'd never been able to do so during her life. I spoke to John Ramagli, and he told me about the new All Around Combo he was about to introduce. I told my wife again (that permission thing. Trust me, I have plenty in the safe she never knew about), and she told me to go ahead. It'll be delivered sometime around the end of Feb, and if I remember, I'll post a couple photos.
John
 
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