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Claybuster 1100-12 1oz wads - Problem

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#1 ·
I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. I am using the Claybuster Clones of the WAA12SL wad the 1100-12 for 1 ounce loads. (the pink ones) It appears that the the claybuster is around 1/8 inch longer than my 1 1/8 oz ones. When I drop and ounce of shot into it the shot is taller than the wad cup. Seems to me the claybuster 1oz is too tall and the cup is not deep enough to hold a full one ounce. The problem is when I try to crimp the final it gives me a buldged crimp and after 10 minutes they start to open up. So I have reduced the shot load between 7/8 and 1 ounce. Has anyone else seen this with claybusters? The 1 1/8 ounce wads work fine.

I'm running a mec 761 grabber with Winchester AA hulls.
THanks
Pete
 
#6 ·
Wad pressure!! What type of powder and how much are you using?I only use these wads in the new AA's so I can throw them away and not deal with them again! The claybuster is a softer plastic that gives a little so you can seat them past the interior rim of the new AA hull.
 
#8 ·
I use the same powder charge and wad on a MEC 9000 that does not indicate any wad pressure on the gauge when seating the wad....I am not familier with the crimp stations on the machine you mention but in case they are the same as the 9000 here goes...(1)Crimp starter- close until a lead pencil eraser just barely fits (2) Second station is the crimp punch and cam closer..lower the punch crimp until the petals are well below the rim then adjust the cam to close the hole in the center..The 3rd station on the 9000 just tapers the shoulder to make use in a autoloader easier. Note if you lower the last (tapering) station to excess you will cause a wrinkle in the shell just above the base wad. Ken
 
#10 ·
ClayBuster cloned that wad when the one-piece AA hulls were being made and they had a greater internal capacity than the new 2-piece AA hulls. The wads were intended to fit the old hulls. You need a shorter hull like Downrange's DRA-12 or their XL-1. I talked with Kevin at DRMfg recently and he noted that most wads produced now use the same size shot cup for both 1 oz and 1 1/8 oz loads and, no, not all the shot fits in the cup but it doesn't seem to matter.

MK
 
#12 ·
"So I have reduced the shot load between 7/8 and 1 ounce. Has anyone else seen this with claybusters? The 1 1/8 ounce wads work fine."

You have your answer. Load em light (for practice or whatever) until they or the AA's or gone. If you're going to stick with AAHS's and want exactly 1 ounce you need a different wad.....increased wad pressure is never the best answer. A good recipe is one with the perfect stack height with zero wad pressure.
 
#13 ·
I have before me a new unopened bag of Winchester AA gray wads # WAA12L. It states on the bag "NOTICE: These gray Winchester AA 12 gauge wads have been designed specifically for 7/8 oz. (24gram) target loads: they can also be used in 1oz. loads. Check your powder manufacturer for correct loading data." Yes I have had this problem before. Winchester told me to use the AA12F1 wad which is made for the AA case with 1 oz. loads and the problem will go away. Answer: you are trying to put 1 oz. shot in a 7/8 oz. wad. Bill Hom
 
#15 ·
I use the same 1 oz wad your using only I never use the new AA hulls. I only use gun club and STS and set my wad pressure very light so it barely moves when I seat the wad and am having no problem. The reloads look great. I can't remember now but I DID have problems with the new AA hulls before I switched to the gun club and STS hulls. Hope this helps. Tom
 
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