We've considered traveling down and shooting leagues. Both of us enjoy shooting trap and are looking for meeting new friends and doing a lot of shooting. Is MTA really so bad? Michael and Jane

I agree that the banks need to be scrambled daily at both the Mo State shoot, Summer Hcp and the Fall Shoot. Too many differing backgrounds, variation in target presentation and just to be fair.

...well then, I hope those Montana assholes get their act straightened out, because it's a fricken shame...

buzz, thats funny.

When in Montana and ride a hay-burner all day you get a sore ass. So they may not get it straightened out.

Bo

tomk2

I can't give you the numbers of the banks that are pat traps because last fall we had to shoot 100 per trap and that changed the numbering.

Your best bet is the contact Lyndle Pruett, the manager at 573 346 4507 or www.motraps.com.

I haven't heard what the procedure is going to be for the State Shoot or the fall shoot. 50 per trap or 100 per trap? Priority for bank assignments is given to those that presquad for every event. I don't shoot every event and when I paid to presquad for the events I chose to shoot I seldom got to shoot on the banks I had requested so quit spending the extra money.

I pull the trailer down on Monday and just classify and pull positions on what squads that are open for the week and still get stuck on short squads.

ed.

i'm not a big time shooter but have shot at mta 4 times. the first time i shot traps 1 and 2 and shot ok. i agree with malzie and hope to see him sunday at ottumwa ikes. also mta is my favorite place to shoot, but then again i'm not well traveled when it comes to shooting.

I have shot there quite a few times. My gripe is they have 60 traps and they will have about 25 of them (the PAT traps) will shoot 10 squads each. The remaining 35 traps will shot about 2 or 3 squads each (many with one or two shooters). The have issues getting done on time. Places like Kansas that have 20 traps require (or at least try) you to take the next open slot. Why not limit the number of squads which would make the other traps be of use? Also on the 35 or so hand set traps the back ground and contour of the ground can make some of them work great while the one next to it a disaster to shoot on.

Last fall I shot on the hand set traps. I never had an issue most of the time but did notice that some of the traps were broken down quite often. I mean the same trap broken down even after they replaced everything. We moved to a different trap 2 different times and I only shot 2 days.

Random bank drawing has become common at many of the larger Southern shoots. Past President, Ken Duncan, deserves much credit for this change. It is a fair system. The Middletown club in Ohio has solved this problem in a different way. There shooters shoot 25 per trap and then skip two (3?) fields. This allows every shooter to shoot against all backgrounds.

Jerry (FlaLagarto) I, like you, could not find the rule cited by HMB. It appears as if either you and I or he needs to read the rule book again.

Pat Ireland

Las Vegas does the same thing they call it skip system Steve told us that's the way a lot of clubs use to do it.

I agree with Roger Brenner 100% there are a lot of places to shoot if you don't like it don't go. I stop going and I don't miss it at all.

James E. Johnson

Hey Tron, Your weasel faced Troll.

What are you doing reading a thread about the Missouri Trap Shoot? Are you that bored?

Do you know where Missouri is? Will your Mommy let you go that far to play?

Don

PS; A lot of wussies would have deleted their screw up, but $hit happens, and if you can't laugh at yourself - who can you laugh at? I am glad you enjoyed it!!

Are you going to be at Birmingham Saturday? We can shoot for Cokes with Mike and the "Coke Machine".

I have to chime in one more time as the trend to these postings indicates that trap selection is based on a first come first serve system. As a long time Skeet shooter who has 70,000 life time targets, shot skeet from Georgia to California what I have found is that the shooter does not get to pick which field he or she shoots. Random selection is as fair as fair can be. Sounds like the TRAP shoot managers and the national organization need to take note.

Ronbo

The way it was numbered last year, I think that bank 9 may have been the first pat and trap 52 or 53 was the last pat. I got on the last one last year is the only reason I even remembered it because I didn't think they went that far. John

I attend most of the bigger shoots at Missouri and the problem I have is about 70% of the time I get stuck on a short Squad or the previous squad didn't show up at all.. Here is the problem, shooters are allowed to pull as many tickets as they want (tickets for squad bank and position) they don't charge to pull tickets so you have a lot of people that pull tickets and then sit back and wait for the Sun/WInd/Rain or whatever to be just right then they cashier and shoot. This leaves all of the unused tickets UNUSED thus short or empty squads, I have talked to Lyndle about this and he shook his head in agreement and then said that the board and directors would not allow him to change it. Now that got me to thinking who do you suppose is pulling all the extra tickets???????

Clays

sounds fair to me guys,you all complain and use excuses about bad scores,you walk on the line looking for excuses b4 you lose. The targets come out of the house when you call PULL just shoot em and quit worring about stupid stuff which you cant control,it is a sport remember that,if it were easy for everyone you would complain that it was too easy ,which I have heard already about the 2 hole and 3 hole targets. We are there to have fun ,not whine about the professional amateurs that make this sport work as well as it does,they paid their dues and given up parts of their lives to help you shoot better and you whine about it. Shoot and have fun with your friends,keep the sport alive and quit tearing it down,you sound like a bunch of left wingers "I wont go there anymore" Good idea, try to talk people into not going ,maybe they will close ,then how happy would you feel Mr. Democrat ???

And the complaints that I hear about sissy skeet shooters on this site!

Pull multiple tickets and then wait for the wind/rain/sun to be just right! What a bunch of prima donnas! Case in point, 2001 World Skeet Championships, Day 1 of the 12 GA main, I was shooting on the Marine Team and was staying a Lackland AFB. I woke up to go for my morning run; I did not shoot until noon had plenty of time. At 8:30 AM the wind was blowing so hard the metal trash cans where blowing end over end down the middle of the street. At 8:40 AM the 1st Flight of the Main started, I do not believe that one shooter failed to step up to the line on time and these targets where tough. By the time I started winds were down to a balmy 25MPH lucky for me it was a cross wind and the targets did not dance around too much. Even under these conditions over 100 125x125s were posted on the 1st day.

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!

Ronbo

Not knowing what the situation is I will make my comments. I do not know if they did it this year, but Tucson has had the best system I have seen. First you must pay by 3:00 P.M. the day prior to an event or you loose you spot and it becomes open first come first serve. They rotate banks randomly. Great Club and well run. You do not hear any complaining whatsoever. This system should be adopted at all large shoots. Just my opinion. - Jim

Pat and Jerry B.,

You will find the rule listed under the fundementals of competition. All competitors will be treated equally and fairly. It's called good sportsmanship. HMB

HMB!

Sanity at last!

Semper Fi

Ronbo

Ronbo,

Thank you. HMB

It is a shame that good sportsmanship is not at the top of your list. To answer your question, some people get to choose their bank and squad, and some people don't. Some people have an advantage, and some people don't. That is unfair.

In the final analysis, shoot attendence will be the deciding factor. HMB