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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: Bisi
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Date: Tue, Dec 23, 2008 - 11:17 PM ET
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Trying to calculate the positives and negatives of married life, for an old guy like myself. I’m 53 years old and have been given an ultimatum. Something about it’s time to do this or get off the pot. Thought everything was okay then her Mother died over Thanksgiving and I didn’t show up to the funeral. That seemed to set her off, and it has finally come to this. Being married is okay in your 20s or 30s but at my age I'm trying to figure out whether it is worth it or not.

I’m an analytically, bottom line kind of guy, so I’m trying to weigh the positives/negatives and put it into the balance sheet and see what comes up. I’m going to try and keep this discussion to concrete and not abstract terms. Why because in abstract terms I like the woman, but I can argue that I like ice cream also. I just don’t like Rocky Road ice cream 24/7. Ice Cream 2 or 3 times a year is enough now, and I really don’t have to have it then.

Positives:

2 get to eat for the price of 1 at “Denny’s”, but is that really a positive if I’m, the one paying the 1?

Negatives:

Can’t drink as much as I want

Can’t smoke cigars anymore

She has family, and they visit

Have to watch diet

Will live longer if married

Constant yapping

Might not get to shoot as much as I would like

Might have to go shopping with her

She might want to start shooting

She has less than 500K in liquid assets

Hoping you married guys can add something to the positive side.

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Date: Tue, Dec 23, 2008 - 11:28 PM ET
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You are either a fool or need a bigger lure.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: HWF
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If you have to ask do her a faver and run

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: buzz-gun
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Bisi, women go f'ing nuts when their mothers die, so take that into account.

That said, you sound like Dr. Spock trying to analytically calculate whether you'd like Baroque music better than the Bluegrass you currently listen to.

If the analytical calculations need to be that explicit...you'd probably better stick with Bluegrass.

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From: hairtrigger
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my wife ran off with my best friend, I REALY MISS HIM.

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There are some moral obligations that one should adhere to when married. Attending the funeral of your wife's mother is probably one of them. Was there something of utmost importance that kept you from the funeral; such as an important hunt, football game(s) to watch? Inquiring minds need to know.

Hollywood

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From: ShawnaTX
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Ugh. Match.com would ban you.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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I once heard a saying that in marriage "kissing fades but cooking lasts." I sometimes quote that as I hug my wife while she's cooking.

And just remember this, "It's a sorry man who won't get up and get his wife off to work in the morning."

Danny

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: 6878mm
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Don`t do it

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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BROWNST100,

I find doing my laundry isn't such a bad thing.

ec90t

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: Desert Breeze
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Admit it…………….You just want a K-80

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: Hauxfan
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It looks like you should spare her the misery......

There is nothing better than a good marriage................but.........on the other hand, there is nothing worse than a bad marriage.....

Hauxfan!

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Get a dog instead

Dick The Shooter

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Bisi ole boy. Ya better think this one over for a LONG time before you jump in. For one thing you will NEVER be allowed to forget your absence from that funeral, and it will only get worse with timIf there is ANY doubt in your mind at all----forget it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me tell you one thing for certain. At your age, you are are RARE commidity(sp). The world is full of lonely/divorced ladies. You can take your pick !!!

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On the morning of the couples 30th wedding anniversary the wife says to the husband,lets go have dinner tonight and relive that first night! OK says the husband, but this time I get to sit on the side of the bed , cry and say its to big. Merry Christmas , Jeff

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FISH (plural) ON!

JB=Jerry Beach 8503917

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Having been married for 23 years and divorced for 20 years, the last 20 have been more fun. It's been like looking for a new shotgun. You get to try out many different models without buying. YMMV.

Eric

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: Old Texas Marine
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In a relationship, one party can never be happier than the least happy person in the relationship. I love 'em, but they really bring me down. I don' have enough time left to have a bad time. I want to enjoy life not examine it.

Thirty-three years, but I don't have the energy to do the maintenance anymore.

The kids and grandkids are wonderful, though.

Old Texas Marine

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: WPT
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I dated the girl I am married to now for 15 years to the day before I (we) decided to get married, when she asked for what turns out to be the last time ... I did it to provide her with some security in case something would happen to me being as I am a cardiac patient and my kids would of had her out of the house before I was cold if I didn't ... We get along well and I do not have to ask if I want to do anything, buy anything, or just happen to see something I have to have and bring it home with me ... I just tell her and she is usually okay with it, if not she will get over it or live with it because that's the way it is ... I was single for a long time and its hard to forget the freedom that comes with being single but you adjust willingly or not at all if thats what you want ... We have been married for 7 years after dating for 15 so by now I'm used to having someone else around and I do honestly love her but I loved her before I married her too ... I think being married was invented by a woman because most guys don't really see or feel the need for it, but it makes some woman happy at least for a little while ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

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From: buzz-gun
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Wow...so far the "ladies" have kept a muzzle on their contempt...

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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The ladies know better than to take that lure. HEHEHEHEHE

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: Recoil Sissy
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buzz-gun:

Several years ago the human genome project confirmed what married men already knew - ALL women carry the necessary genes to be "f'ing nuts".

Those genes are found only on X chromosomes resulting in a double recessive trait. That means "f'ing nuts" is sex linked and exclusively expressed in female phenotypes.

What isn't understood is the mechanism responsible for controlling the trait. In some women the trait is perpetually active. In other women an undiscovered biochemical mechanism turns it on and off.

Husbands understand certain verbal signals will trigger a dormant "f'ing nuts" gene to the 'on' position every time. For example,

Dearest, your @ss looks fat in those jeans. Or,

Sweat Pea, I think your friend Alice is better in the sack than you. OR,

Love Muffin, I'm SURE your sister...

In the interest of marital bliss, it is vital to select a mate who's switch is mostly in the "off" position. A genetic counselor can help. And... for any husband who utters one of the verbal triggers - You're on your own. You DESERVE what you get.

sissy

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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I have to have sex at least occasionally. I don't want to go out again as a single guy looking for a woman. To do that you have to deal with women you don't know most of which you won't like once you do know them. Better to have a woman at home that you know. Marriage to me is more comfortable than being single. I look at single people as life's losers. I hope my wife lives as long as I do. Don't want to be single again.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Been divorced for 8 years. For awhile it was rough even though the ex wasn't the easiest to get along with. Dated for awhile and then just quit. Bachelorhood seemed really good for about 5 years. Was jokingly part of the Three Musketeers which involved my son and another guy that worked for me. Then along came an amazing woman in my life. She was so unique compared to ones that I had known. We got along excellently, didn't fight, didn't argue and enjoyed what this sight is really about. But many miles seperated us and eventually responsibilities from where I was from complicated matters. We decided to seperate. Well the one thing that seperation allowed was for both of us to see just how much we continually missed each other and the joy and comfort that we shared. It allowed me to go back to the way that I had experienced where I only had my self to answer to on a daily basis. I could do anything I wanted whenever I wanted. But life just wasn't fun anymore without sharing it with this person. She also realized some very negative experiences in that same time frame. We reunited at the Grand this past year and will be married next year at the Grand. So for me I have no doubt of what I want and how I want to spend the rest of my life :-) I Love You recurvy.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: buzz-gun
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Awww.....

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: Frank C
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Pheasantmaster......what a great way to ruin a single guys (or single wannabe) thread!!!! Good luck to you and Recurvy!!! I'll buy you a beer at the Grand next year....if she'll let you have one!!!---Merry Christmas FC

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: Bubba
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sissy, thanks for the laugh.

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Sharing (the Good and the Bad). Happy Holidays Bob

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Been married 40 years and I don't know how either. I do what I want and so does she. We have arguments from time to time, (not about sex anymore, I have given up on that)but for the most part it is very tolerable. I don't think I would ever give up my independence at my age again though. Grandkids are great tho.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: WPT
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You never know a woman until you live with her, keep the miles between you and you will be like newly weds everytime you see each other at the Grand every year ... You never know real happiness until you get married and then its to late ... lol... WPT ... (YAC) ...

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Way too much juvenile macho bullshit on this thread. Grow up! Marriage is a special human bonding and not a business; subject to analysis and a balance sheet. Suggest you give this poor woman a break and let her go.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: buzz-gun
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The definition of being "Grown Up" is knowing what you want and need to be happy, and taking the responsibility of getting it for yourself...(not waiting for someone else to provide it for you). Letting someone pressure you into something that doesn't fit your definition, isn't grown up...it's "stupid." The high divorce rate in America testifies to the fact that many don't understand this. People getting married for the wrong reason, and not being honest and true with themselves about what those reasons are, is the best description of immaturity you are likely to find.

Bisi, you didn't give a lot of detail about how many previous marriages for each of you or other stuff, etc...so I think that's about as far as we can go with the information given.

Many of us are happily married, but our lives our different than yours. Based on what you've laid out, I wouldn't do it. You are looking for a "low pressure," casual type of relationship. You should be able to find a mature, older woman who is OK with this, but if you can't, I sure wouldn't struggle to fit a square peg in a round hole.

Many here will pass judgement on you for what you want, but don't listen to it. Their lives are different than yours, and they can't imagine why you are the way you are. There is absolutely no value at your age in trying to conform to other people's expectations. Find someone who wants the same things as you, otherwise...hang it.

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Jeff, Now that is soooo funny. Jackie B.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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I asked my future father-in-law if he minded if I married his daughter, that was in 1952. He thought a minute and said "hell no" then thought about it and added "all I remember is my infantcy and my marrted life".

We were married 53 years and I miss her. Worked for us.

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Bisi, you get out of it what you put into it. Bulge

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From: shot410ga
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If your already considering her a potential problem. Take a hike NOW. As you will sooner or later, anyway. Save yourself the hassel.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Don't do it

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
From: Catpower
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You know the differance between a wife and a girlfriend??????

40 pounds

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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I,m not sure how but our anniversary will be the same as the Superbowl 43. Talk about ups and downs. Two daughters 3 granddaughters (one Grandson) and we even had a female cat that I could kick right before it bit me. Can't figure em out but doin OK. The doc asked me how I was doing and my reply was: Social Security is paying for my Trap Shells and gas for the Harley. I just signed up for Medicare so you get paid if I fall off the Bike or drop a bag of shot on my foot. He was speachless for a second and laughed out loud. Women are only as good as you treat them. Treat them good and you can keep the toys and shoot as much as your budget will allow. Have a great Safe Holiday Season.

Hogsan-

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Now I have a reason to go to Sparta- To see the really big event !!! Mazel Tov to Martin & Devi

Lou

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I'm suprised you hooked as many as you did. The bait stunk!

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Little late for a "Starter marriage." Most people get the first one out of the way in their 20's. Been there, done that. Thankfully no kids. Good Luck!!!! "Old bird dogs that have hunted alone have a hard time adjusting to another hunting with them!" Along the bird dog theme, "If you get married, be sure and honor."

Merry Christmas

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I tried marriage once!!!!!!!enough said.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Frank C, you can buy Martin a beer. I don't believe that any person should place any restrictions on a partner. He's a big boy and knows how to balance his fun with responsiblity. It's one of the reasons why I love him so much. He doesn't restrict my freedom, and I don't restrict his.

So, Tripod, you shouldn't have to give up your freedom to be married if you have trust and love.

A person will hang him or herself given all of the rope...or not. And the hanging depends on what the partner will or will not tolerate. That's how people should choose each other. Give full freedom, and cut 'em loose if you can't live with the stuff that they do to themselves (or to you). Restrictions only work in the short run.

Of course, love matters a great deal. I, personally, could not live with someone that I didn't love. But love doesn't equal "like". You have to like the person, too, in order for it to work in the long run. You should look for someone for whom you have both feelings: love and like.

Ran200, Martin has already tested the water. We lived together before we separated, and we separated because we both had family obligations that kept us from being able to put our lives together in one locale. If you knew us, you would be advising me, not him...I was the one with the cold feet.

But this man has proven himself over and over to me.

He is my best friend. Sometimes we are very grown up when needed, and then we can turn around and be like 10 year olds together (those of you who know Martin well can relate). We approach our differences with an open mind and we truly empathize with each other, so it makes it easy to compromise. We were both raised the same way, which I think helps a tremendous amount.

Martin, I love you too.

Stick around, y'all. When it's right, it doesn't fade...it get's stronger. You'll see.

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And Bisi...Buzzgun is giving you all the right advise. If I were you, I'd walk away. This particular relationship does not sound like the right one for both of you.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Don't marry her if you can live with her, marry her if you can't live without her.

Jef

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Barbara and I have been married 55 years. Her K-32 just came back from Pat's Gunsmithing and we'll be shooting trap on Sunday along with my son amd grandson.

Hank Cross

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Your analysis says you should stay away from her and do her a favor.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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I'll take the bait........what you really experience is the creative urge. It manifests itself in many ways, one of which is procreation and the desire to stay alive by sending your genes down the line.

Preservation of self, preservation of species, all part of the drive.

Before you say BS....this is not done consciously. It's an undertone you don't really hear, but it's there.

Many people who do not satisfy this urge with the atomic family manifest it in other ways, like art, building, music, or other. This has been said to be the reason there are so many highly creative people who happen to be gay. They have the urge and it comes out differently.

So there you are. Suppress it and pay the consequences.

So if liquid assets is a big deal why don't you just piss your pants and stay single?

HM

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Given what little I know, and I am married, I'd go for the friend with benefits route. Or better yet, FRIENDS with benefits route.

And you know the difference between sex and money? A: You can never get enough money, particularly if you are married.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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I told my at that time future brother inlaw,

"remember when you say I do you have given up the the right to be right, and to ever win an arguement". Also "if you loose on purpose to so the you can win down the road you have just lost twice".

He is my X brother inlaw, and I just past 25 years.

That clean underwaer is kinda costly, Some how The good cooking comes by the swet of my brow, and my single friends get more S....... then I do!

But I wouldn't trade it for the world!

It probably is my fault I don't get in as much hunting and fishing as I would like!

But heck I took up trap shooting!

Al

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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marrage is 50/50..I give 50%,she takes 50%....and she tells me we are all happy!I also wear the pants in the family,she just tells me how to put them on !

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Hey Pal:

Your note is a little ambiguous.

Are you saying that after 11 years with this lady, you split the sheets and now all is good? Case closed.

Or...

The subject of marriage is a closed case for you because after 11 great years with this pretty lady you've decided marriage is a 'good thing' - as the domestic diva Martha Stewart would say?

sissy : )

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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If you have to ask....the answer is NO do not marry her.

I was married for 25 years to my first wife. Good person but people grow apart sometimes. NO common interest at all.

Remarried to a much younger woman. It has made me younger......if it doesn't kill me first but I do love her a lot.

Kids and past history of the woman are always a consideration.

GOOD LUCK....you need it.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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38 years-3 kids-6 grandkids. SHE bought ME a new-to-me combo at the Grand last year.If it wasn't for her I'd be living in a box on Lower Wacker in Chicago. I know why I keep her. I haven't a clue why she stays.. The downside is that I haven't been able to sample all the sweet young things out there like I did when I was single! LOL

Martin and Curvy- You seem to have found IT.Hope IT stays, Good luck.

Larry

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Bisi, Buzz gave some good advice to you and the rest gave their ideas of marriage humor. Do her a favor and if you marry anyone, just marry yourself! In my opinion if you cared one iota for this woman you would have dropped everything and been there for her at her mothers funeral- to me that was a pretty heartless act on your part.

Giving someone an ultimatium to do something they don't feel in the first place is an indication that there is no internal harmony between two people in the first place. I doubt if the two of you have actually had an open and totally honest exchange of information where you both share your real feelings without fear of losing each other. If you are as selfish and self centered as you are sounding, then she needs to know up front that you are exactly the way you are and if she still wants you then there will be no surprises. She needs to reveal her true feelings and why she feels you are the PERSON she is willing to share her life with. There is an old saying "The Truth will set you Free!"

No matter the outcome of this communication between the two of you--- no matter what it is; you Both will be better off.

If two people have to analyze the positives and negatives of whether they should get married.....they probably shouldn't. In your mind you marry someone because you enjoy being with them without any pretense by both; deception or thinking you can change the other person to be exactly what you want in a spouse is foolish. Friendship should come first and foremost! Love and lust only clouds what true marriage really is! Good Luck, Biff

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If you have to ask on here you should not get married.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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My buddys Grandfather is almost 90 and living in Florida, and he has more girlfriends than you can imagine! Bringing over pies and whole dinners all the time! Fighting over who will take him out to dinner on Sat. nite! May be a little too late for some good sex, but he is having a blast. Can't even wait to clean up the place for him. This has been going on in his park for seniors since he was 70. Lots of old ladies looking for companionship keeping him busy. All he has to be is a somewhat nice guy. Says he never thought of getting married even back when he was 70.

I still think that it is still a bit of a lonely life though. Who wants to be alone when you are older? But if all you can think about is how to get rid of her, I suppose you are better off.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Remember that all women(and men for that matter) have "issues," nobody is perfect. If you're thinking the grass might be greener on the other side of the fence, just remember you know what issues you are dealing with now....can you live with them? Human nature is human nature, men will be men, and women will be women. Another mate just has a whole different set of unknown "issues."

Kim

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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"If Momma ain't happy, ain't NOBODY happy."

Wonder where that saying came from?

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Less than 500K in her liquid assets is a negative for her

Have you talked to her about possibly working a second job?

only kidding

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been married three times....my advice is to just rent occasionally..not to buy......this way you can upgrade as you go! all kidding aside....i mean it!

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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A friends brother is a once divorced cop who worried about some of these same things. Hating hanging around bars to meet someone new, he now RENTS! A couple times a month he calls an escort service and says WOW! 90% knockouts that REALLY know how to treat you! He is so happy with that arrangement that he says he will never marry again, and can't wait for the next new escort. He tells us about some of them, and continues to say WOW! He said he usually gets better treatment than if someone actually was in love with you. AND many WELL-built knockouts! For about $150 to $200, he always says WOW!

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I hope all you ladies are getting a GOOD look at this...yes, that's right...

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Seriously, the pros and cons of being married. On the negative side, you don't always get your way when you are married. If you put your own self needs above anybody else do everyone a favor and stay single and don't have children. You don't deserve to share your life with anyone else. On the plus side, I nave never had a lonely day since I got married and had children. Not one. I can't imagine my life without my wife and children and now grandchildren. It would be a lonely meaningless existence. To me family is everything. There is a love and bond with my wife and children that can never exist with friends. I think about my family as much as I do about hunting and shooting. On the financial side, which should even appeal to selfish people, married people tend to be better off. Two incomes is better than one. More stable too. Like having an insurance policy if one of you loses your job. If you look at the statistics of the top family incomes it is heavily weighted toward marriage. Children are much better off living in a family with a mother and father who love and care for each other and their children. That means two people who can put other's needs above their own or at least on the same level. Harder and harder for people to do with more people than ever only loving themselves. Almost all poverty in America is caused by the breakdown of marriage. Most of our criminals in our prisons are a result of the breakdown of marriage and the traditional family. I think happily married people with good children (Me) are the luckiest people in the world. I look at single people as life's big losers. Pitiful selfish people that will never know the true happiness that comes from loving others.

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Highflyer,

For you to state that marriage is the end all be all for everyone is a bit presumtious of you. That it works so well for you is great but I hope you would agree that it's not for everyone. For you to say that those who are not married for whatever reason are selfish losers is disrespectful to say the least of their choices. Not everyone is that needy that they need to have a life partner and all that goes with it.

Respectfully, Eric

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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How I see it. It isn't like I don't know what I am talking about. I have lived both. A good marriage with good children is far better than being single with nobody. Far better. Single people without someone they love to share life's pleasures with, LOSERS.

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You seem to be a bit closed minded on the subject. Very sad indeed.

Eric

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Highflyer, there are several of us on this board who have lost their mate due to cancer/heart attacks etc. and for you to call us losers is totally uncalled for.

I think you owe those people an apology.

Hauxfan!

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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If I lost my beloved wife do to cancer or a heart attack I would indeed consider myself a loser. It would be a very hard loss to overcome. Same with any of my children. But it is far better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all. I don't owe anyone an apology. The truth is the truth, those with the most loved ones are the biggest winners in life. Our pop culture preaches that things and money are what defines life's richness. Wrong. That couldn't be more wrong.

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The gospel as preached by highflyer. Anyone who disagrees is a sinner and bound to be dammed for eternity. Talk about being one sided, wow!

Eric

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Wow, Highflyer........I lose my wife to cancer and that makes me a loser.

What a one sided narrow view of life you have.

I consider myself a winner for having her all of those years that I did and enjoying her companionship. To bad you can't see that side.

Hauxfan!

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I can't believe anyone would be so stupid that they couldn't see the difference between someone losing a spouse to cancer and someone too selfish to get married or stay married or having such a distorted self-image that they are incapable of finding a spouse to love when there are literally millions of people to choose from. Then there are those who just make terrible choices and jump from one failed marriage to another. I have known all of the above. I pity them all. So sad. Getting ready to meet my wife and daughter for the ultrasound of my new grandson. Sure beats the heck out of going home to an empty house.

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Talk about being needy and co-dependent. I go home to an empty house every day and love the serenity it offers. I also love not being responsible to or for another person, being able to do anything I want when I want to without having to explain anything to anyone. It's all about freedom and choices.

Eric

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"I hope all you ladies are getting a GOOD look at this...yes, that's right..."

Buzzy, this is 2008. Almost 2009. Women can buy escorts, too. And we can buy them in either gender...

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Oh really now?

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Subject: OT - positives or negatives of married life
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Most women don't have to buy them. All they have to do is invite someone in!!!!! A simple as winking at the kid next door! Its VERY EASY for women. But most women have to be too prim and proper. They have to say the hell with that sometime. Just be nice to someone sometime. Invite someone in and quit trying to be hard to get for cripes sake! If you are an adult - be nice to someone and get it on!

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Do you know what 45 year old women and 30 day old horse manure have in common?

They're both easy to pick up.

Hell go ahead and trade, I did 2 times. Until I figured out that I was losing all my equity.....

LOL

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It seems like trading too often wouldn't be good for your financial health!

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AND THEN THE SAYING: " It's cheaper to keep her"

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Sportshot,

Are you sure you're wired for 2-20?

HBT

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lease with option to buy!!!! be sure the lease is closed end.

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Bisi, It's New Year's Eve and escorts are in demand, it's not too late to go to Zales!

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recurvey, you can get way more than you want for nothing, but I am sure as a woman you already know that.

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Do your part to keep our taxes lower: Medicare spending is higher for single older men, since elderly singles spend more of their years in nursing homes.

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