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baum4444 23-Aug-11 - 05:43 PM ET
vpr80 23-Aug-11 - 05:48 PM ET
baum4444 23-Aug-11 - 06:01 PM ET
twcpdc 23-Aug-11 - 06:11 PM ET
Steve W 23-Aug-11 - 06:12 PM ET
vpr80 23-Aug-11 - 06:17 PM ET
Ajax 23-Aug-11 - 07:13 PM ET
baum4444 23-Aug-11 - 07:28 PM ET
Allen-MX8 23-Aug-11 - 07:33 PM ET
baum4444 23-Aug-11 - 08:20 PM ET
baum4444 23-Aug-11 - 08:49 PM ET
TOOLMAKER 251 23-Aug-11 - 09:43 PM ET
BigM-Perazzi 23-Aug-11 - 10:04 PM ET
BigM-Perazzi 23-Aug-11 - 10:19 PM ET
BigM-Perazzi 23-Aug-11 - 10:27 PM ET
TOOLMAKER 251 23-Aug-11 - 10:28 PM ET
BigM-Perazzi 23-Aug-11 - 10:43 PM ET
Barry C. Roach 23-Aug-11 - 11:18 PM ET
claybuster38 24-Aug-11 - 12:03 AM ET
Steve W 24-Aug-11 - 02:57 AM ET
vdt 24-Aug-11 - 08:33 AM ET
Allen-MX8 24-Aug-11 - 02:17 PM ET
The Cedar Dell 25-Aug-11 - 01:49 PM ET
SMITH47 25-Aug-11 - 01:52 PM ET
TOOLMAKER 251 25-Aug-11 - 02:05 PM ET
Allen-MX8 25-Aug-11 - 03:17 PM ET
TjayE 25-Aug-11 - 03:30 PM ET
whiz white 26-Aug-11 - 06:36 PM ET
decimamas 54 27-Aug-11 - 09:18 AM ET


Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: baum4444
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 05:43 PM ET
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I have a removable trigger group on a Perazzi where the front came out as I was inserting it and the back went into place and now I can not get it to move at all. Have put alot of effort into it with no results. Would appreciate any suggestions from someone who may have seen this happen before. Thanks.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: vpr80
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 05:48 PM ET
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Instead of the usual holding the safety up and pulling the back down, have you tried to pull down on the front of the trigger that didn't make it in the receiver (still hold the safety up)?

Seems a bit strange since there is really nothing there to hold it in there that tight.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: baum4444
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 06:01 PM ET
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Thanks, but have tried that. It is in there really tight. Don't undertand why.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: twcpdc
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 06:11 PM ET
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Take off the stock so you can see if any thing is there to cause a problem. You may be able to push it out from the top. Tom

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: Steve W
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 06:12 PM ET
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Is the cocking bar (#112) under the cocking foot (#164) ?

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: vpr80
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 06:17 PM ET
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Just a thought, but pull the stock and post a picture. One of the pros should spot the problem ASAP.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: Ajax
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 07:13 PM ET
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Were the barrels on the gun and opened when you did this?

Ajax

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: baum4444
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 07:28 PM ET
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I believe the cocking bar is under the cocking foot. Also, the hammers are cocked.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: Allen-MX8
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 07:33 PM ET
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I don't have the answer, but I sure would be interested in knowing the answer.

I have an older MX-8 and have removed the trigger group numerous times with no problems removing or inserting. While I don't know what is best, I always remove it when the hammers are cocked.

Sure hope you found out what to do and let us know. Thanks.

Allen

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: baum4444
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 08:20 PM ET
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Picture of trigger problem

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: baum4444
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 08:49 PM ET
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Picture of problem

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: TOOLMAKER 251
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 09:43 PM ET
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Put a piece of cloths line through the trigger guard and while holding the trigger release fully forward, yank on the cloths line and the trigger will come out. If you tried to open the gun while the trigger was put in cockeyed like that, you more then likely bent the cocking rod.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: BigM-Perazzi
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 10:04 PM ET
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The cocking feet are jammed up against the hammers. Notice the extreme compression of the springs.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: BigM-Perazzi
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 10:19 PM ET
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So far, all I can come up with is..

How did you do that???

I'm assuming you've got the barrels off...

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: BigM-Perazzi
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 10:27 PM ET
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on second thought, I think what's hanging it up is the trigger retention plunger on the back. I've been able to duplicate the same thing, less the jammed hammers.

It may be that the safety's forward motion is blocked by the trigger..

You might be able to drift the pin in the back of the receiver and release it...

watch out for the spring!

good luck!

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: TOOLMAKER 251
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 10:28 PM ET
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The cocking bar is bent and jambed up against the cocking feet, I have seen this happen to another person who was not paying attention when re-installing his trigger. The cocking bar will have to come out to be straightened out. All this happened when he opened the gun while the trigger was in that position.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: BigM-Perazzi
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 10:43 PM ET
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makes sense looking at how the hammers are jammed fully back against the trigger frame...

but, he seems to still not be able to pull the trigger out...

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: Barry C. Roach
Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 - 11:18 PM ET
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Can any more damage be done by tapping it out?

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: claybuster38
Date: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 - 12:03 AM ET
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If you can drive the pin out of the hammers with a drift, that will relieve the pressure. the back is latched so the galling would take place on the cocking feetand the rod. Marv

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: Steve W
Date: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 - 02:57 AM ET
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Try slowly lower both hammers (not to break firing pins, due to hammer angle is off), this should let the cocking bar move forward to clear both cocking feet.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: vdt
Date: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 - 08:33 AM ET
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it appears to me that your safety is not all the way forward ,it is striking the back of the trigger.at the lower bottom of your trigger there is a retaining pin that holds the plunger that holds the trigger in,if you take that pin out a small plug will come out with a spring and a plunger that in turn holds your trigger in ,now you should be able to pull the trigger out of the back of the receiver,try it,could do the job....vdt

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: Allen-MX8
Date: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 - 02:17 PM ET
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While I am interested in knowing what worked to get the trigger group out, I have learned to always be very careful when replacing it after removal.

My practice has always been to insert the front part first, then pushing forward on the safety pressing the rest of it in. I have never had any problems. (I do have small hands and not much strength in them so it is sometimes an effort to get the safety pushed far enough forward to get the group out!).

I sure hope he is successful with no damage to the trigger group or to the gun.

Allen

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: The Cedar Dell
Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 - 01:49 PM ET
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My MX3 did the same thing and I forced the trigger assembly out and reinstalled. The gun would not fire. Light primer strikes. changed springs and firing pin and still would not fire. Sent complete gun to the grand with a friend who took it to the Perrazi guru's 3 times before it would shoot a complete 25 pair round of doubles. Springs, firing pins, cocking lever and $600.00 later, I shot a round 25 singles and had 5 misfires. What's next? Danny Hunter.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: SMITH47
Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 - 01:52 PM ET
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Where is PBB (mike) with this problem ?

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: TOOLMAKER 251
Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 - 02:05 PM ET
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I'll explain it 1 more time, put a rope through the trigger guard and while pushing the trigger release fully forward pull down on the rope and it will come out. I had to remove 2 triggers like this from owners guns. Once the trigger is out the cocking bar has to be removed and straightened using the edge of a steel ruler to check for flatness.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: Allen-MX8
Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 - 03:17 PM ET
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Thanks Toolmaker 251.

I hope I never have to use your method, but just in case I have the problem in the future I will know what to do.

I wonder, has "Baum444" (the one with the problem) ever got his trigger group removed? If so, I wish he would give us a report.

Thanks.

Allen

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: TjayE
Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 - 03:30 PM ET
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Looking at the picture of the trigger above, it looks like the front of the trigger assembly is not in the receiver where it should be when properly installed. I think the trigger assembly is cocked and the cocking bars are wedged against the cocking feet. I am sure the cocking rods are now bent. TOOLMAKER 251 explains what you need to do to correct this problem.

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: whiz white
Date: Fri, Aug 26, 2011 - 06:36 PM ET
Website Address: http://www.swsupply.com

1. The hammer springs ARE over compressed
2. You need to release the tension on these springs
* Try to lift up (trip) the rear of each sear where that part meets the "tree"
* Yes, this will fire each hammer, but you need to release the tension to free up the Cocking Bar from under the Cocking Feet
3. Chances are the Cocking Bar is now bent - check it and DO NOT ATTEMPT TO STRAIGHTEN IT, just REPLACE IT!!
4. Give me a call (see website above) AFTER next Tuesday, if you are still figithing this and I will be happy to talk you through this problem.

Whiz

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Subject: Perazzi MX8 trigger problem
From: decimamas 54
Date: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 - 09:18 AM ET
Website Address: http://www.mm-accessory.com

If you follow these directions you should not have any problem getting the trigger out. 1)Put receiver in a vice with led or plastic jaws, this way you don't scratch anything 2)Pull the safety out 3)Push with a small screw driver on the link trigger release, this way your trigger will be free(part.#106) 4)Put a large scre driver between the plate and receiver and with a wrench twist it slowly from left to right ( Have somebody helping you either pushing the link or twisting the screw driver) 5)At this point the trigger must come out for sure

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