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Hawk46 12-Jan-11 - 01:54 AM ET
Hawk46 12-Jan-11 - 11:17 AM ET
bridgetoofar 12-Jan-11 - 11:28 AM ET
pdq 12-Jan-11 - 12:20 PM ET
BILL GRILL 12-Jan-11 - 12:51 PM ET
Hawk46 12-Jan-11 - 01:44 PM ET
Hawk46 12-Jan-11 - 05:14 PM ET
twotimer 12-Jan-11 - 05:42 PM ET
Hawk46 12-Jan-11 - 06:30 PM ET
Bushmaster1313 12-Jan-11 - 07:12 PM ET
Hawk46 12-Jan-11 - 09:00 PM ET
Bushmaster1313 12-Jan-11 - 09:47 PM ET
pdq 13-Jan-11 - 01:35 PM ET
the beast 13-Jan-11 - 03:50 PM ET
bighoss40 13-Jan-11 - 04:07 PM ET
jlb 13-Jan-11 - 04:22 PM ET
grunt 13-Jan-11 - 08:12 PM ET
BILL GRILL 13-Jan-11 - 08:28 PM ET
Hawk46 13-Jan-11 - 11:13 PM ET
eightbore 14-Jan-11 - 12:05 PM ET
Larryjk 14-Jan-11 - 12:59 PM ET


Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Hawk46
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 01:54 AM ET
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I've never owned one but I like the way they look. A number of them are listed for sale on GB right now. Wondering what kind of reputation they have on the trap line and if anyone has any experience or advice relating to the 4E?

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Hawk46
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 11:17 AM ET
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I'm high bidder on this one but it will certainly go much much higher. Looks like the Knick may be the more desirable version?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=210213863

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: bridgetoofar
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 11:28 AM ET
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Why stay away from a Flues model? Lots of people say that, but why?

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: pdq
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 12:20 PM ET
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Why stay away from Flues models? 2 reasons come to mind. First, when Ithaca went from the Flues to the Knick model, it was a significant redesign internally, many improvements made. If you want details, I'd suggest checking out Walter Snyders excellent book. Second, and this applies especially to the grade 4 guns, the Knicks are considered more desireable than Flues by collectors.

The gun being sold is represented in being in pristine condition. If so, after having it checked out by a gunsmith familiar with Knicks, I'd encourage you to shoot it. They are all choked very tight, so they really crush the targets. Crushing targets with an 80+ year old gun is especially fun.

If you are looking for a Knick with even greater collector value, I'd suggest looking for a grade 5E, or if budget allows, the more rare 7E. Again, condition and originality of the gun have a strong determination on value.

Pete

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: BILL GRILL
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 12:51 PM ET
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Nothing wrong with a Flues, just harder to get worked on if needed and more expensive to repair. They shoot just like the Knicks. Shot my first 100 straight with a Knick's 4e. Hawk, you should be able to buy a nice 4e for around 2000.00 or less. I bought a VERY nice 4e for 1700. a couple years ago. Watch out if you get interested it is a disease. There are guns out there with 34" barrels just hard to find. Also Parker, Fox, L.C. Smith, and Baker also make a very similar shooting single barrel trap gun. Bill

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Hawk46
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 01:44 PM ET
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Thanks Pete/Bill. I had read where improvements were made after the Flues model but don't know the particulars. I was just outbid of course on the gun in the link I included above. My Blue Book is 15 years old so not much use in checking it, but any idea on the worth of this gun? It seems to be pristine and a fist year Knick. I'm thinking anything under $2000 might be good? Dave

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Hawk46
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 05:14 PM ET
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ttt - anyone have a recent Blue Book? Ithica 4E Knick model, 32"bbl. 95% condition.

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: twotimer
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 05:42 PM ET
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Hawk, 31st blue book edition list a 4E 95% $2450.00 Under 2g's would be good based on that number. Remember, the book doesn't buy guns, it is just a book. Mike

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Hawk46
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 06:30 PM ET
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Thanks twotimer. I went to their web site where they have it listed for almost seven grand! Think I'll let them keep it!

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Bushmaster1313
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 07:12 PM ET
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$975 one year age. You do not need to pay more than $1,500 for a nice 4E:

Ithaca 4E Knick manufactured in the United States February 1927:

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Hawk46
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 09:00 PM ET
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Bushmaster, that looks like a nice gun for that money! I think I'm going to wait for awhile anyway, maybe after I get back to Ohio. Should have more cash by then and that way I won't have to trade something I'd prefer to keep.

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Bushmaster1313
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 - 09:47 PM ET
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I was patient and the market was slow this time last year

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: pdq
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 - 01:35 PM ET
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$7 grand for a 4E?

Throw in a mint 5E and he'd be close.

Pete

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: the beast
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 - 03:50 PM ET
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I don't think you can say they are all tightly choked. The barrels on my 4E are choked .036 and .024. It is my understanding they were pretty much made to order and you could pick your choke.

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: bighoss40
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 - 04:07 PM ET
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Here is a 5E on gunrunner online auction It will be interesting to see what it goes for—looks pretty original

http://www.gunrunnerauctions.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=978723336

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: jlb
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 - 04:22 PM ET
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The gun on gunrunnerauction.com is a Flues model #306701T that does not have gold birds. If one looks at the left side of the receiver you will note the spot where the "Greener" bolt extends from the receiver upon opening. Knick guns > 400,000 have a "Boss" type lockup similar to a MX8.

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: grunt
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 - 08:12 PM ET
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TTT

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: BILL GRILL
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 - 08:28 PM ET
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There are a bunch of then on gunbroker right now. Bill

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Hawk46
Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2011 - 11:13 PM ET
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Bill, I noticed that this morning. I also noticed that the better guns are $2k and up!

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: eightbore
Date: Fri, Jan 14, 2011 - 12:05 PM ET
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The fellow selling the gun in question only drew $900 some in bids because his picture (yes, one picture) was taken from across the room. He has good pictures of some of his other guns, not so good with others. What's with this guy?

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Subject: Ithaca 4E
From: Larryjk
Date: Fri, Jan 14, 2011 - 12:59 PM ET
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I used to shoot a 4E for 27 yd. birds. It just ground them up, or if I was on, made them into puff balls. Wonderful gun.

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