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RobertT 17-May-10 - 06:12 PM ET
GordonWood421 17-May-10 - 11:57 AM ET
leadhead358 17-May-10 - 10:23 AM ET
Ahab 16-May-10 - 12:32 PM ET
RobertT 16-May-10 - 11:59 AM ET
oletymer 16-May-10 - 11:06 AM ET
shot410ga 16-May-10 - 10:57 AM ET
samiam03 16-May-10 - 01:40 AM ET
ALF-99 15-May-10 - 11:24 PM ET
leadhead358 15-May-10 - 10:35 PM ET
Dicksie 15-May-10 - 12:05 PM ET
RobertT 05-May-10 - 11:40 AM ET
cdr 05-May-10 - 01:06 AM ET
Lyndon Shumaker 04-May-10 - 10:38 PM ET
leadhead358 03-May-10 - 09:36 PM ET
$$$SHTR 03-May-10 - 09:21 PM ET
RobertT 03-May-10 - 01:28 PM ET
leadhead358 03-May-10 - 01:15 PM ET
jmheritage 03-May-10 - 01:08 PM ET
laura! 03-May-10 - 11:56 AM ET
oleolliedawg 03-May-10 - 11:48 AM ET
ALF-99 03-May-10 - 11:18 AM ET
leadhead358 03-May-10 - 11:12 AM ET


Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: RobertT
Date: Mon, May 17, 2010 - 06:12 PM ET
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Tom, I too own a Spolar and experienced the same problem you have outlined in you postings. After considerable effort to try to get the wad to work, including trying different wad seating depths I discovered that the wad was occaionally rising or lifting in Dicksies words due to the compression fit into the tapered base wad of the new style AA hulls, watching carefully I could actually see this as it occured. My apology's if I offended you, but your dogged determination to use a wad shell combination that has proven to be problematic prompted my comment. I do hope that you are successful in getting the wads to work as desired and would greatly appreciate knowing how you did it.

Robert

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: GordonWood421
Date: Mon, May 17, 2010 - 11:57 AM ET
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Tom ,

How much "freeboard" do you have going into the starter crimp station ? If that depth is marginal and you run into a case that is on the "short side" , sometimes as the crimp is being closed , a pellet or two may be pushed up past the end of the case .

You might look at that and if you are starting at 1/2" (or especially less than 1/2" - - roughly, half of 0.800" + crimp depth ) consider increasing the depth at which you set the wad .

Charlie

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: leadhead358
Date: Mon, May 17, 2010 - 10:23 AM ET
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Robert, The Spolar does not have an operator problem. The Spolar does need some adjustment and I am working with Dixisie and her crew for the adjustment. I purchased the Spolar about a month ago and gave them this recipe and had the machine set up for it. When the Spolar was sent to me, the wad and finished shell was in a bag marked with the recipe. Now it may need some adjustments to keep from dropping one or two pieces of shot about every 5th or 6th shell. I have loaded this recipe for 2 years without any problems in an aa hull. The wad is fine and patterns well in my gun that's why I use it. I have loaded over 20,000 aa hulls using this wad and have not had this problem. I do not want to switch wads at this time, because I have 5000 of them sitting at my reloading table. I also have about 3000 nitro hulls sitting in a box and loaded about 75 of them up and it did the same thing. The Spolar is a very fine machine and I didn't want to start making adjustments at the wrong station and get into trouble. Dixisie and her crew are very informative and help in every way possible, I spent about 20 minutes on the phone with one of her crew and he was very pleasant to deal with and gave me some pointers and advice for the set up. I did have a problem on powder drop, it was to be 18.5 and I averaged out 500 shells to be 19.0 to 19.1 which is fine for the Remington hull, I asked Dixisie about this and she sent me a new powder bushing that throws 18.4 to 18.5 on every drop. She sent this at no cost. I do not have a problem with the Spolar, I was asking about an adjustment. What kind of a reloader do you have Robert???? Have you tried to make an adjustment on yours to be able to use this wad???? Hmmm seems funny I had same problem using a nitro hull. I will be setting down sometime this week to reload. I will make the adjustment on the shot drop tube before I begin and I will let you know Robert if the adjustment works.. Tom

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: Ahab
Date: Sun, May 16, 2010 - 12:32 PM ET
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Quote...

Down Range XL-1 This burgundy wad has been changed to NEON GREEN. It is produced for primary use in the Remington STS & Winchester hulls with 1 ounce loads. It can also be used in a Federal Gold Medal hull with 1 1/8 ounce loads.

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If it casn also be used in a Federal hull ... overpowder cup doesn't have enough taper to get past the Winchester AA HS base wad. What it means is that the wad caan't travel all the way down to the powder and is getting hung up part way down ... and gets over compressed. When you try to crimp the hull, as soon as you release the pressure ... it acts like a spring and tries to open up the crimp ... and that is why shot will pop out!

If you would hold the shell that had some shot pop out, to a strong light ... you will see a cocked wad or a wad that is not all the way down touching the powder, in there!

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: RobertT
Date: Sun, May 16, 2010 - 11:59 AM ET
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The Spolar seems to have an operator problem, nothing wrong with the machine. Tom, your persistence in using a wad that has demonstrated itself as inappropriate for new style AA's "Load is aa hull, 1oz shot, win 209 primer, 18.5 grains e-3 and downrange neon green wad 4 pedal," is amazing. I have twice recounted my experience with the same shell wad combination and Dicksie has now replied with "Tom, I did not realize that you were using the Green wad, it is not the same as ours. That wad works fine with any loader in an STS Hull, but not the AA HS because of the wad cup in the hull. The wad is lifting up out of the that particular hull. Use the Down Range AA SL Replaement wad, I am not sure of the number. You can also try turning the shot drop tube down one full turn." I'm beginning to believe you are beyond help my friend.

Robert

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: oletymer
Date: Sun, May 16, 2010 - 11:06 AM ET
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It is pretty common knowledge that the DRA12 red wad works better than the DRXL1 in Winchester hulls. The DRA12 red is shorter than the WAA12sl and DRXL1. It fits the hull better for one once loads. That wad is what Dixie is telling you about.

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: shot410ga
Date: Sun, May 16, 2010 - 10:57 AM ET
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Qh man!!!! A Spolar with a problem. No way, no how. I was under the impression Spolar was perfect. I guess, I'll just have to keep my Dillon......

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: samiam03
Date: Sun, May 16, 2010 - 01:40 AM ET
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Alf-99 - What's so unbelievable other than your spelling? He's using the clone that Dicksie suggested.

Dicksie said: "the Green wad, it is not the same as ours. That wad works fine with any loader in an STS Hull, but not the AA HS because of the wad cup in the hull. The wad is lifting up out of the that particular hull. Use the Down Range AA SL Replaement wad, I am not sure of the number

Tom replied "This is the right wad Dicksie, Down Range XL-1 Neon Green four petal, the purple is an eight petal instead of a four as per their web page. I will try turning down the shot drop tube. Thank You."

Down Range XL-1 Down Range XL-1 This neon green wad is produced for primary use in the Remington STS and Winchester AA hulls, with 1 ounce of shot. It can also be used as a 1 1/8 ounce load in Federal Gold Medal hulls. We use only virgin plastics to assure quality and performance. Please Note: This wad maybe substituted for these popular wads. WAA12SL, CB1100-12, Green Duster & Downrange Jammer XL-1

Down Range XL-1 Down Range XL-1 This neon green wad is produced for primary use in the Remington STS and Winchester AA hulls, with 1 ounce of shot. It can also be used as a 1 1/8 ounce load in Federal Gold Medal hulls. We use only virgin plastics to assure quality and performance. Please Note: This wad maybe substituted for these popular wads. WAA12SL, CB1100-12, Green Duster & Downrange Jammer XL-1

So what's so unbelievable?

Sam

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: ALF-99
Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 - 11:24 PM ET
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Unblieveable

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: leadhead358
Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 - 10:35 PM ET
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This is the right wad Dicksie, Down Range XL-1 Neon Green four petal, the purple is an eight petal instead of a four as per their web page. I will try turning down the shot drop tube. Thank You.

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: Dicksie
Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 - 12:05 PM ET
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Tom, I did not realize that you were using the Green wad, it is not the same as ours. That wad works fine with any loader in an STS Hull, but not the AA HS because of the wad cup in the hull. The wad is lifting up out of the that particular hull. Use the Down Range AA SL Replaement wad, I am not sure of the number. You can also try turning the shot drop tube down one full turn. Dicksie Spolar 800 227 9667

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: RobertT
Date: Wed, May 05, 2010 - 11:40 AM ET
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Tom, have you at least tried a different wad? The case and wad combination you stated are exactly what caused a similar problem for me.

Robert

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: cdr
Date: Wed, May 05, 2010 - 01:06 AM ET
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hi tom, this could be caused by the wrong bushings, shot drop tube depth or wad. first check bushings, scale powder and shot. to check the wad depth loosen the shot drop tube jam nut, run 1 shell, drop powder, shut powder and vibrator motor off and no shot in the charge bar (shot off), put a wad in the wad arm, cycle the loader, stop the loader in the up position, hand screw the shot drop tube down until you fill the wad stop on the powder. tighten jam nut try a shell. also can try spolar 1 1/8 wad (shorter wad). if you need further help call spolars 800-227-9667 mon-thur 6am til 1pm pacific time. ask for bill, dicksie or robert.

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: Lyndon Shumaker
Date: Tue, May 04, 2010 - 10:38 PM ET
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Tom

send me an email.

Lyndon

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: leadhead358
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 - 09:36 PM ET
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Here is what I am watching. Load is aa hull, 1oz shot, win 209 primer, 18.5 grains e-3 and downrange neon green wad 4 pedal, Dixie said the wad is basically the same as the spolar wads, made of same type plastic. I am taking my time loading about 4 to 5 seconds a shell, wad seats about 1/8 inch below crimp line on casing. I am not loosing shot on the #4 station wad and shot input. Where I see the shot falling from is the #5 station when the shell releases from the precrimp die it seems as if it is sticking to the die and when the casing releases it drops some shot. I have tried sts and nitro hulls and it does the same thing. It seems like the precrimp die needs a coating of silicone to make it slippery to release the top of the casing instead of sticking. I have no trouble with the wad fingers folding over and no trouble with the wad guide. I thought it was the wad guide dragging shot out, but it comes out of station 5 not 4.

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: $$$SHTR
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 - 09:21 PM ET
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Also, if the wad fingers get bend over when the wad is being inserted can make the shot raise up when the handle is raised. When this happens a couple of shot will overflow the shell.

Tomas

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: RobertT
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 - 01:28 PM ET
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Had the same problem using new style AA's with a straigt instead of tapered wad. The wad was seating deep enough but it would rise back up from the compression.

Robert

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: leadhead358
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 - 01:15 PM ET
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Brand new machine. Thought someone may have a fix instead of trying to call dixie. She has been swamped and only one working. same wad spolar uses.

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: jmheritage
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 - 01:08 PM ET
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AA hulls? wrong wad for hull. I have the problem only with the new AA HS.

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: laura!
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 - 11:56 AM ET
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Sometimes you can get shot stuck in the groove that the wad setter is supposed get seated into when you pull the handle down. If that is the case, it could be causing your problem.

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: oleolliedawg
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 - 11:48 AM ET
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Wrong wad or not seated deep enough!!

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: ALF-99
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 - 11:18 AM ET
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Spolar has an 800 number ?? You may not be setting the wad hard (deep)enough

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Subject: Need help on spolar reloader
From: leadhead358
Date: Mon, May 03, 2010 - 11:12 AM ET
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I keep having some pieces of shot drop from the precrimp station on my spolar. Its not much and doesn't do it on every shell, about every 5th or 6th shell. I reloaded 800 shells and have about an ounce of shot in my catch all pan. After the precrimp goes down on the shell and raises back up some of the shot falls out of the hull. It looks like the plastic hull is sometimes sticking to the precrimp and pulling the hull up from the die, then when the hull falls back into the die the shot pieces fall out. Should I spray with a lube or any suggestions. Thanks Tom

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