I don't think that comment was necessary since there are young people and ladies, like myself, that do read these threads. Since this is my thread, I would appreciate you deleting that comment. Save it for the bars or start your own thread.

Thank you, Sue

Musketman,

I agree with Sue,please delete you post.

They always look so much bigger in velvet than after the antlers are hard.

I'm guessing 180" if he's lucky.

Still a beautiful rack I would not pass up.

Let us know the actual score when the lucky hunter gets him this fall.

BigBadBob, We will, he's being watched! Do you think he'll grow anymore yet or are they already set?

Sue

I'm doubt he'll grow much more. Here in Missouri, the bucks are asually hard-horned by 1st of September. It's rare to see one in velvet after labor Day.

What part of Illinois, North, South, Centrl? He looks like he might be from Pike County.

West Central IL, close to the Mississippi. Several large bucks have been seen however, this is the first one on cam. Thank you for the info, just didn't know. Hunting fever is starting to take hold!

Sue

I must have a food fixation...I don't see antlers...I see burgers, roasts, steaks ans sausage : ) somebody pass me the A-1

Calvin, take a 1" slice of tenderloin and fry it in butter with a little worcestershire sauce. A bit of A-1 and a slice of homemade bread. Mmmmm, heck with the horns.

The inside back straps never make it home from deer camp, along with the heart.

HM

Halfmile,

We call those the tenderloins and you are correct. They never see the freezer. That's the first thing that hitts the skillet.

I agree wholeheartedly guys...the tenderloins and hearts dont even have a chance to cool to room temp around here...antlers are impressive but darn hard on the teeth and we've had enough hat racks around here over the years..no longer a priority...its what looks to be the most tender in filling the freezer

I wholeheartedly agree. Beautiful buck, but the tablefare is what really does it for me regarding venison. I am lucky enough to have hunting priveliges on a local dairy farm. The only stipulaion is that I "take at least four of 'em" yearly. With doe permits and early and late season available in this area, that makes it no problem. Horns? what horns? Bill

"Horns and tracks make pretty thin soup".

ctreay

Damn, don't anybody here eat the heart and liver???? Heart and eggs for breakfast and liver and onions for supper, with home fries of course, no ketchup, just salt and pepper. Woody

Deer antler stew tastes oooooh soooo..............crappy

Hi Sue,

I'm a certified scorer for Buckscore. This is a software that has been developed to measure the size of the bucks antlers from a photo, velvet or not, and be very, very close to the actual hard measurements taken.

I measured this buck using Buckscore and I got a non-typical gross score of 211.03 inches. It net scored 204.92.

Quite a dandy you have here. Good luck!!

Thanks so much for the information! We have several large bucks lurking about this year and since I was never a trophy hunter, (I like meat for the table), seeing these bucks may change my mind!

Thanks again! Sue

How does your software know how far the deer is from the camera? Does it use facial features and dimensions from the deers head to make a scale to measure off of? I saw that software advertised and wondered how it worked. I would guess that deer not grossing over 180". But i dont have any fancy software. More info on this software would be appreciated. Thanks

Yoteslayer

The software doesn't work on a distance from the camera. Just like you suggest, it works off of features, specifically the ear, one of the eyes or the width between the eyes. Alot of research has gone into measuring these features on many, many deer in order to establish baselines.

Depending on the angle of the deer in the photo you have to determine which of the three features gives you the best view. In this case I used the right ear. You first tell the software the state the deer was from, then tell it the age if you know it. If you don't, select unknown. Once you've chosen the feature to measure, then you measure it and hit the record button. Then the software walks you through the various steps necessary to complete the calculations where you'll measure the beams, spread, tine lengths, circumferences etc, and when finished, it asks if the deer is in velvet or not. You select the correct answer and a fully detailed score sheet is created, just like the one your local scorer would use.

Thats very cool, can the software be purchased yet? And if so where and how much is it? This is great technology. I would like to hear what this deer actually scores if taken. Id like to send you a few trailcam pics that the deer ended up being taken and the score is known, just to try it out.

Thanks for the reply

Ryan

Laserwizard,

Thanks so much for scoring this buck. I will pass the results of the Buckscore program to the guys who sent me this photo. I'm sure they'll be excited to get an accurate evaluation of this buck. The person hunting this property is a very experienced bow hunter and I'm confident he'll be able to take this deer if given the chance. But we never know about trophy bucks, do we? LOL! The bow season opens here on Oct. 1st. If any more trail cam pics show up, I'll post them on this thread. It would be nice to see him after the velvet is off.

Terry

We tend to get caught up in the numbers - I doubt you could find a hunter that wouldn't want this guy on the wall regardless of the antler score. I would just call that buck a toad! May not be correct terminology for a whitetail but we use that for the really big mulies around here.

Good mature body on this guy too - I'll bet he survives the coming hunting season, they don't get this big without knowing how to elude the predators.

Sue, sorry for the hijack. Laserwiz, can you measure this one? My employee got it this spring. Thanks. Harv

Wow!! Harv, that guy would tear out two rows of corn.

No problem! Nice one!

Sue

Shotshell Check your PM's.

I am the employee who shot the 2nd buck pictured and I know what he scored and I also have a few other record book bucks hanging on the wall, so I have some experience on the subject of harvesting large White tailed bucks,and what they score. I agree with yoteslayer and that deer will be lucky if it goes 180, and less with deductions. I also shoot all my deer in west central Illinois on my own land.and we grow em big there.Sorry Lazerwizard I dont think your software works to good. The results you gave on my deer were short and that dark area on his antlers is velvet never shed because it died before it could fall off. This happens to very old bucks when they start going down hill. My deer was 8 1/2 years old according to the biologist who looked at him. And the deer in the trail cam pic looks young, if the people hunting that land want a true monster they will let him walk for another year or two till he matures. My buck grossed 205 7/8 and 202 5/8 net as a typical. As a non typical he was 211 3/4.

Keith

I agree this deer is closer to 180 than 200. My guess is less than that though.

Smithy Considering that your scorer was able to get his hands on this rack and perform conventional measurements, and I was able to get within 1.5% of your net typical score from a flat 2D picture, I'd say this software works very good. It is not a tool that can certify world records, you have to measure via conventional means for that, but to get very close, it's an awesome tool.

You just helped authenticate it's accuracy, and assuming the same margin of error on Sue's deer, the measurements I provided are quite accurate.