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AllAmer4 11-Jul-12 - 09:46 AM ET
Donm 11-Jul-12 - 10:11 AM ET
Jack L. Smith 11-Jul-12 - 11:08 AM ET
AllAmer4 11-Jul-12 - 11:29 AM ET
Catching Chrome 11-Jul-12 - 11:41 AM ET
senior smoke 11-Jul-12 - 11:51 AM ET
Mark425 11-Jul-12 - 12:17 PM ET
BigM-Perazzi 11-Jul-12 - 12:22 PM ET
AllAmer4 11-Jul-12 - 12:24 PM ET
senior smoke 11-Jul-12 - 12:29 PM ET
Unknown1 11-Jul-12 - 01:49 PM ET
running bear 11-Jul-12 - 04:50 PM ET
grntitan 11-Jul-12 - 04:54 PM ET
Unknown1 11-Jul-12 - 05:22 PM ET
grntitan 11-Jul-12 - 05:38 PM ET
Calkidd 11-Jul-12 - 06:36 PM ET
perazzi97 11-Jul-12 - 06:46 PM ET
Barry C. Roach 11-Jul-12 - 06:52 PM ET
Jacob Guthrie 11-Jul-12 - 07:00 PM ET
Jason Hassler 11-Jul-12 - 07:10 PM ET
Andy Grant 11-Jul-12 - 08:10 PM ET
Jason Hassler 11-Jul-12 - 08:44 PM ET
9point3 11-Jul-12 - 08:53 PM ET
Andy Grant 11-Jul-12 - 10:14 PM ET
Mark425 11-Jul-12 - 10:48 PM ET
Setterman 11-Jul-12 - 11:15 PM ET
X2 fan 12-Jul-12 - 12:28 AM ET
Andy Grant 12-Jul-12 - 12:42 AM ET
6t6stang 12-Jul-12 - 10:48 AM ET
BigM-Perazzi 12-Jul-12 - 11:05 AM ET
Beretta687EELL 12-Jul-12 - 11:47 AM ET
Donm 12-Jul-12 - 11:50 AM ET
6t6stang 12-Jul-12 - 01:14 PM ET
AllAmer4 12-Jul-12 - 02:13 PM ET
Andy Grant 12-Jul-12 - 04:45 PM ET
Locke-N-Load 12-Jul-12 - 10:09 PM ET
dds4horse 12-Jul-12 - 11:23 PM ET
charleyj10 13-Jul-12 - 11:56 PM ET
trapace 15-Jul-12 - 11:35 AM ET
John Galt 15-Jul-12 - 11:57 AM ET
slide action 16-Jul-12 - 07:31 AM ET
AllAmer4 16-Jul-12 - 11:41 AM ET
Aulovel5 16-Jul-12 - 12:13 PM ET
AllAmer4 16-Jul-12 - 04:54 PM ET
AllAmer4 18-Jul-12 - 07:19 PM ET
AllAmer4 13-Feb-13 - 10:57 PM ET
Matt Colman 14-Feb-13 - 10:28 AM ET
b12 15-Feb-13 - 10:29 AM ET
Bob Schultz 15-Feb-13 - 11:01 AM ET
AllAmer4 18-Feb-13 - 12:56 AM ET
Unknown1 18-Feb-13 - 07:42 AM ET
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AllAmer4 19-Feb-13 - 09:28 PM ET


Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: AllAmer4
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 09:46 AM ET
Website Address: http://trapshootingonline.com/thetrapapp/

If you have a smartphone and would like to do away with your paper ATA card, you'll be interested in The Trap App.

The ATA still requires you to carry your paper card to show proof of handicap yardage, but now there is no need to write scores and calculate averages on the paper card. The Trap App will do it all for you and you're allowed to present it at the time of classification.

-Record registered, league, and practice scores. -Calculate averages for 16 Yard, Handicap, & Doubles -Record scores by target year -Compare your scores to the averages at each shoot for class, category, & the field.

Expected release in the Apple and Android app stores is early August. Please sign up to be the first to know!

Thanks,

Dean

http://trapshootingonline.com/thetrapapp/

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Donm
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 10:11 AM ET
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Dean. Would you please post something here when it comes out. Sounds good. Everyone undere the age of 25 will have it for sure. Maybe some of us old guys too.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Jack L. Smith
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 11:08 AM ET
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Dean, great Idea & I'll use it on my iPhone; my age is not 25, and higher than the transposition there of.

Is the ATA going to upload the (our) resistered scores into it?

That is, will there be a a separate registered tab for ATA classification, and "other" for non registered?

jack in PA

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: AllAmer4
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 11:29 AM ET
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Jack, at this point, the ATA will not be loading scores into it. I'm hoping to work with them to achieve this in the future.

You'll be able to record, and separate, registered from league and practice. It requires your manual input, however, to type in each score (this is already done on the paper card anyhow).

Thanks for your interest.

Dean

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Catching Chrome
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 11:41 AM ET
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Will it be free?

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: senior smoke
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 11:51 AM ET
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Just when I'm thinking to get back into ATA shooting, now this. To complicated for me. Why can't things just stay the same? You young guys will find some way to get us older guys out of the sport for sure. One way is to go high tech and some of us will certainly be watching from the side line. Just a matter of time before the ATA will require this. Steve Balistreri

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Mark425
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 12:17 PM ET
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I will have it on my Android as soon as you release it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: BigM-Perazzi
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 12:22 PM ET
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Pretty cool stuff. I keep Davids ts.com scoresheet on my phone already..

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: AllAmer4
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 12:24 PM ET
Website Address: http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/07/nielsen-smartphones-used-by-50-4-of-u-s-consumers-android-48-5-of-t

@Catching Chrome - sorry it won't be free. There is a significant development cost associated with it.

@SeniorSmoke - Nobody is forced to use it. You can still use your paper card, and in fact, you'll need to bring it with you to verify handicap yardage anyhow. Plenty of people don't have smartphones, so it can't possibly be required purely as a practical matter.

Take a look here. 50% of US consumers use smartphones.... http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/07/nielsen-smartphones-used-by-50-4-of-u-s-consumers-android-48-5-of-them/

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: senior smoke
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 12:29 PM ET
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AllAmer4: Trust me, it will be required someday in the very near future. Nothing against you, I just do not like change. Steve

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Unknown1
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 01:49 PM ET
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The battery never dies in a paper card and it never catches a virus!

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: running bear
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 04:50 PM ET
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Allamerica4, Why should I pay you when I can keep it on my card free?

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: grntitan
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 04:54 PM ET
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Will this be a free App??

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Unknown1
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 05:22 PM ET
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"Will this be a free App?"
See post up 4 by AllAmer4 ^

Keller

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: grntitan
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 05:38 PM ET
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Thanks Keller. I didn't see that the first time thru. I use Davids system here and my paper card still works good.

Like you said, "The battery never dies in a paper card and it never catches a virus!"

Besides, I'm a tightwad.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Calkidd
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 06:36 PM ET
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You had me lost at a cost. I am all about electronics and I embrace change, because if you don't you'll be left behind. However, the developmental cost shouldn't be so much that the app should cost money. Good luck.

Right now while I am waiting in line for the handicapper, I load up the ATA website showing my current scores and singles average on my Droid Razr Maxx. Just in case there is a dispute.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: perazzi97
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 06:46 PM ET
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I would not be afraid to pay for an app like this. it seems like a great idea for tech savvy people! Please message me when you do release this for android! And to all the people Complaining about a price. If you would watch what it takes to make something like this, i'm pretty sure you'd pony up that one dollar and ninety nine cents.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Barry C. Roach
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 06:52 PM ET
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I haven't written down a score for ten years, probably. I'll use this.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Jacob Guthrie
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 07:00 PM ET
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I'm with you Barry what's an average card? LOL

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Jason Hassler
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 07:10 PM ET
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I for one like this. I will be purchasing and trying out this app, provided it isnt priced too high, and I applaud those who are developing it. Hopefully the ATA will cooperate and make this even more useful. I will be using my paper card as well though. The app will be useful to review my scores and even share screen shots! Thanks guys! It will be interesting to see if anyone attempts to punch a hole through an iPhone when they earn yardage. Lol.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Andy Grant
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 08:10 PM ET
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All of you guys whining about cost crack me up. Ya spend thousands a year on shells, targets, gas, and food but don't wanna shell out a dollar or two to help a guy in our shooting community who's trying to be an innovator?

Obviously some of you have no idea how much work goes into programming. I for one will gladly shell out a buck or two for this because I use my Droid for everything, including writing this whole reply.

Now, I'm not saying you guys with smart phones have to buy it, duh. But to whine over a couple bucks when you participate in such an expensive sport makes me laugh like a hyena.

P.S. - I'm also gonna buy it because ole Dean has been taking input from me and Jason on Twitter and I can't wait to see how it turns out!

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Jason Hassler
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 08:44 PM ET
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I would love to see this app interface with the ATA website to provide shooter average info and a calendar feature for upcoming shoots. Maybe even a feature for favorite clubs, shoot dates, results and an interface with presquad.com would also be awesome. The possibilities are endless but Dean needs our support and so does this App. I would really doubt it will take the place of paper average cards and in fact I wouldn't want it to as there are just some things I prefer to have old school. But appealing to the smartphone crowd is a great idea as it will also attract a younger generation to aid the future of this sport. Thanks Dean for your hard work and I look forward to the release of this exciting tool.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: 9point3
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 08:53 PM ET
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Who is gonns teach the old fart classifiers to use the darn thing?

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Andy Grant
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 10:14 PM ET
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The ignorance in some of these replies is astounding. It's an application for trap shooters by a fellow trap shooter. You *DON'T* have to use it or like it. Unwind your panties and either offer ideas and advice or just move on. Buncha sourpusses on here!

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Mark425
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 10:48 PM ET
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Well said...Andy

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Setterman
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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 - 11:15 PM ET
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I thought it was such a big deal to hand the classification crew your average card?

Remember the thread about classification at Ohio when their computer/hardware went down?

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: X2 fan
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 12:28 AM ET
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What good will this app do when the ATA is constantly 2-3 weeks or more behind in posting averages/yardages to their database. I don't know about the rest of you but when I go to any shoot, I want to be classified on ALL my targets, not just those from a month ago that may, or may not, be in the database. I personally have no problem updating my average card after each shoot or event. I will likely take a look at the app but will still continue to average out all my scores after each hundred.

Tim

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Andy Grant
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 12:42 AM ET
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@X2Fan - The app does not sync with the ATA database.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: 6t6stang
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 10:48 AM ET
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I personally think this is a great idea and will be the first in line for the app when it comes out. A question about those who stated that they haven't filled out an average card in years. Is this a violation of ATA rules? I'm fairly new to this sport, only shooting registered targets for about a year, so forgive my ignorance if this is a dumb question. Thanks,

Mike.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: BigM-Perazzi
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 11:05 AM ET
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They don't need no stinkin' rules....

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Beretta687EELL
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 11:47 AM ET
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The reason for the average card is so us lower class shooters get properly classified and shoot at the proper yardage. Remember, if you shoot at the wrong yardage, your targets won't be registered.

Many of the top shooters are AA 27 AA and are usually well known where they shoot. When they show up at classification, these shooters, are just classified in the top classes and maximum yardage. Bill Malcolm

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Donm
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 11:50 AM ET
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66. In a nut shell yes. Unless they can prove that they are a current member, what their hdcp yardage is and their average in 16yrd and Doubles and there other ways to do just that.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: 6t6stang
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 01:14 PM ET
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Thanks for the clarification guys.

Mike.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: AllAmer4
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 02:13 PM ET
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Thanks to everyone who helped answer some of these questions above. There is one thing that I would like to highlight, which hasn't been discussed.

Yes, you can have your paper average card and maintain it for free. If that's what you'd like to do, great. Nobody is forcing you to buy something or use a product. Trapshooting has a big tent and everyone is welcome under it.

But there is a bigger picture here with this app and THIS is my motivation.

This sport is desperate for participation and interest, as well as moving forward with modern technology. It is no mistake, these go hand in hand. Adapt or die. That's the choice.

Every score you enter can be shared with friends, family, and acquaintances via Facebook and Twitter. No big deal, you say?

Consider the "social", marketing, and PR impact this will have on the sport. You send your results to the social networks and tell everyone how great you shot, how much fun trapshooting is, show them the prizes that you won....then somebody following you says, "dang I need to get more involved with trapshooting. That would be great for me and my family to do. Look what a great time my friend had this weekend!"

Suddenly, those recreational shooters(or perhaps its a former competitive shooter who is taking time off) increase their participation and join the ATA, attend a few registered shoots, buy a gun, subscribe to a magazine, buy ammo, purchase glasses and ear plugs, read our websites, etc. Maybe that person has 1 or 2 kids he/she would like to bring along?

Now you're attracting some attention and $$ to our sport. How important is that to our survival?

This is just a first step in the right direction, but I'm committed to taking the risk because it is necessary. I've already got plans for version 2 as well as a few other products to help us.

If the app isn't for you, no problem. I'm not offended. I'll still shake your hand when I see you and ask how you're doing.

I truly value what our fans & customers have to say. Just ask @AndyGrant and @JasonHassler - we've never "met", except on Twitter.

Feel free to email/PM me with any and all suggestions or questions.

Thanks,

Dean

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Andy Grant
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 04:45 PM ET
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Great reply, Dean. I appreciate that you've been taking feedback from us and communicating back and forth on Twitter. I'm anxiously awaiting to see this app on the Play Store for my Droid.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Locke-N-Load
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 10:09 PM ET
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How about a app for Black Berry?

Thanks, Mike

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: dds4horse
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Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 - 11:23 PM ET
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I think this is a great idea. No this will not allienate anyone you will not be forced to have a smartphone and it will not replace paper cards. I see alot of people writing checks in the super market but I just use my debit card. The stores would never require you to have a debit card to do business and nor will the ATA require a smartphone. Right now I arrive at shoots with a printout of my scores that I input into this site, I also keep my paper card. Many people are affraid of change and hey thats totally cool. Just think of all the change since this sport began and people complained and now we just roll with it. Just a thought some of your grandfather's grandfathers probably once said "I'll be damned if I drive that horseless carriage to a shoot 200 miles from home." So yes I think this is a great idea (at least for me) and I am surprized it does not already exist. I will be one of the first in line.

os

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: charleyj10
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Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2012 - 11:56 PM ET
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ttt

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: trapace
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Date: Sun, Jul 15, 2012 - 11:35 AM ET
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Hi Dean

As we spoke at the VA state shoot, let me know when it's ready as I would like to be one of the first to get this app.

Best regards Bob B

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: John Galt
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Date: Sun, Jul 15, 2012 - 11:57 AM ET
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Thanks for writing this app Dean and I hope it is a good one. As you probably know, many apps for Android and some for Iphone are free with an advertising banner included and cost a small amount i you don't want to see the advertising. This strategy has worked well for many app designers.

Another idea might be to offer a trial version of the app so it will stop working after a certain time unless unlocked by a code which will require payment. That way people can test drive it before buying.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: slide action
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Date: Mon, Jul 16, 2012 - 07:31 AM ET
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No phone/computer tie ins(just keep my old paper average card), shoot a model 12, and drive a 20 year old pick up truck!--Guess I'm pretty low tech! :)

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: AllAmer4
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Date: Mon, Jul 16, 2012 - 11:41 AM ET
Website Address: http://trapshootingonline.com/thetrapapp/

@TrapAce - thanks Bob. I'll be in touch in the next 1-2 weeks.

@FlaLagarto - it will be a paid app, priced at or below the cost of a box of shells....and not a box of STS or Winchester AA, but the Gun Clubs and Top Guns.

@John Galt - Generally speaking, an app can be a game, news/weather/email/social, or utility. Each has its own set of pricing and distribution strategies. This falls into the utility category as it is something that you'll use every time you shoot, for many years to come.

With that being said, we're working on a program which gives the first X number of users a premium type account. This will entitle them to special discounts, products, access, etc as we add features to the app/site.

I hope this helps clear up some questions.

Again, if you'd like more info and to be the first to know, please sign up for our newsletter here: http://trapshootingonline.com/thetrapapp/

Dean

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Aulovel5
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Date: Mon, Jul 16, 2012 - 12:13 PM ET
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I'm glad he's not making it free because free apps are full of annoying adds.

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: AllAmer4
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Date: Mon, Jul 16, 2012 - 04:54 PM ET
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Thanks Aulovel5. Ads distract from the user experience and get in the way. Try using Pandora! But that's the "price" you pay when you don't want to actually pay.

Dean

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: AllAmer4
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Date: Wed, Jul 18, 2012 - 07:19 PM ET
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ttt

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: AllAmer4
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Date: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 - 10:57 PM ET
Website Address: http://https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trapshootingonline&feature=search_result#?t=W251bG

I know some folks have this saved to their watch list, so I'm letting everyone on this thread know that The Trap App is available on Google Play/Android today. iPhone/iPad will be available very soon.

Thanks,

Dean

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Matt Colman
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Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 - 10:28 AM ET
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Trading in my Droid this week for the I Phone 5 but Look forward to getting this app in August. Look forward to hearing from you next month.

Matt

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: b12
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Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 - 10:29 AM ET
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Senorsmoke you are right. I just wish things would just be kept simple. Samething a banker once told me. Best advice I ever had. No reason to cloud up more crap to end up with the same simple answer. I can just see it now. Some young jock figuring his last bank score on how its affecting his average and holding up the squad durring a shoot.. Bill

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Bob Schultz
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Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 - 11:01 AM ET
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Dean,

What a cool idea! Can't wait to get one for my iPhone. I'm terrible about keeping up with my paper card, (I don't think I've written in a score in 10 years or so...). I think I'll be better with the electronic version as the icon on the screen will remind me to put in the scores.

There are some folks that resist change...even in their shooting! They keep shooting the same mediocre scores week after week. Never do any work to understand their errors, yet expect to improve by perfecting a flawed technique! Oh well, someone has to fund the purses.

Thanks for your efforts developing the app. Younger shooters (and some of us old ones) will appreciate it. Using the app to feed twitter and facebook will keep the kids interested and may be very beneficial to our sport.

Regards,

Bob Schultz

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: AllAmer4
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Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 - 12:56 AM ET
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Bob - thanks for the very kind words. I appreciate that very much and am looking forward to seeing the impact this will have on the sport. We've got to get our act together and soon!

Dean

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
From: Unknown1
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Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 - 07:42 AM ET
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"I appreciate that very much and am looking forward to seeing the impact this will have on the sport. We've got to get our act together and soon!"
I'm sure this fellow seems very enthusiastic about developing this app for smart phones, I'm a bit puzzled about what "impact this will have" on trap shooting or how it represents getting "our act together"? I think ATA and its members have already over-complicated themselves.

Keller

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
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@Unknown1 - take a look at my comment above on 7/12. That explains in more detail.

Dean

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
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Dean...

I DID read that explanation and I'll just say "good luck with that".

Keller

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
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Now you can see how fraudelent scores will be recorded and you could classify in classes you don't deserve to be in.

You show your CARD Classification pulls you up and there are your scores with the ATA, they must swipe your membership card, any way so what would this do?

Dual record keeping is all it will be.

I prefer the way it is being done now.

Gary Bryant Dr.longshot

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
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As I said above, it isn't for everyone.

You can record fraudulent scores on your paper card just as easily as you can in an app. One is on paper, one is electronic and on your phone.

Dean

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
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I just downloaded it tonight. It even looks simple for me to use. LOL.. I had to go to Walmart and purchase a "Google Play Card" that gave me money in an account on my phone, then I bought it and it downloaded flawlessly for me. Even got an email explaining just how it works. I am impressed with it. I am going to sit down and start filling in my shoots for this target year and see how it goes. For only 4.99 you cannot lose. JMHO here..

Ross Randall

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Subject: Replace Your Paper ATA Card
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Thanks Ross!

Dont' forget, there are two ways to enter your scores - on a shoot by shoot basis, or in total for each target year.

If you choose the total/target year option, you can always change your mind and enter each shoot's results. However, once you choose shoot by shoot for a target year, that's the way it will always be in that target year.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Dean

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