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| John Galt | 14-Jul-12 - 07:19 PM ET |
Here is a video link on how fracking works and how safe it is. None of what you state is even close to true. Your english, composition and sentence structure is AWFUL.
Parkerguy, Fracking was in a learning process and did indeed cause leakage into the water system but hopefully it is now improved to the point that it is no longer a danger or at least they have convinced or bought the government into believing that it's safe. I'm all for it as there has always been a learning curve on inventing anything worth while. Jackie B.
Don't believe the MSM hype on "the dangers of fracking". There have been over 1 million wells fracked over the last 60 or so years and not one documented case of drinking water contamination. That is very safe. The "controversy" over fracking is just another alarmist scare by the far left enviros.
No need to worry; ban the process. As were banning (or placing great hurdles) the drilling for oil, coal fired plants, and nuke plants.
Wind mills and solar energy will provide for all....
By the way, we will need to allow the power companies to put up transmissions lines to connect to the wind mill and solar energy parks. Bet we can't have that either.
I was walking in the woods the other day when I stumbled on a young couple that was in the process of fracking.............I split,and left them frack in peace.
D.P.Reynolds
D. P. R.
Hope they weren't fracking in a poison ivy patch...
Copper, I am 64 this Aug. grew up when automobiles were spewing unpleasant odors, swam in highly polluted rivers, drank from creeks when the friends and I were out wandering. We all survived, don't worry about fracking and stop listening to the green propaganda like methane coming out of someones spigot. The fracking industry is just like the oil boom of the 1900's
Do a little research and you will find there are false claims of contamination and there are some valid claims. Read the whole article above to get a better understanding of the process.
What bothers me the most is some of the chemicals used in fracking are known carcinogens that can and do escape into the ecosystem.
Deep water drilling is safe also until you get some greedy operators who cut corners. Then its too late isn't it?
it's okay, I like paying 5.00 a gallon for gas and looking forward to a wind powered 747.
Guys,
I know this is probably a waste of time but I suggest you go and find presentations given by Dr. Anthony Ingraffea. He was a pioneer in fracking technology, and helped to develop it. I think you get a different perspective on fracking. Don't let the industry dupe you into thinking that this process is completely safe, there is a reason the gas companies were exempted from the clean air act and safe drinking water act.
Ok_shooter,
Well have not been fracked by this technology for over 60 years, the first well fracked using combined technologies was in 2004. This is a myth that the industry is telling people so they won't question the practice. Do the research you will find that the technologies used to frack modern wells weren't even ready until 2000.
Toolmaker251,
Just because you grew up amongst a lot of stuff that killed other people doesn't mean the danger doesn't exist. A lot of people smoked for years and didn't die from it but a lot of people did. A lot of people were exposed to Asbestos that didn't die but a lot of people did, we were also told it was safe! You might already have damaged health because of swimming in polluted waters and breathing exhaust fumes, it just hasn't popped up yet. My uncle worked for the railroad for his entire life and he was exposed to a lot chemicals. His health was fine until he turned 67, now he is ate up with skin cancer, he has to go every other month for treatments. White patches pop up all over his body and he has to get them burned off.
Parkerguy,
I know they spend a lot of money promoting fracking, which makes sense it's there livlehood! I'm sure they are not going to show any video of where something went wrong and well water was contaminated, or the woman in Ohio who almost die becaused she was exposed to Benzene! They also don't show video on how they bully land owners and send threatning letters to them. Or how they illegally dispose of fracking water!
K gun shooter
Do you know if the smoke from you K gun when you open it is carcinogenic?
Did you know that methane has been coming out of spights in up state Pa. before your grand father was born?
lHave Michelle retrain the food police to monitor the frackers.....
HM
Probably a frackin' truckload...........wiseass anwsers that is.
Just suck the frack up, like the rest of us.
You fracking guys are unreal. The man brings up a serious fracking subject and you guys make fracking jokes of it. I don't know why I even bother with this fracking forum.
Wll frack you too Matt.
WTF = What the Frack!!!!!!!!???????????
copper, your concerns are legitimate but you are wasting your time with this crowd. They know that man cannot damage this world, Rush said so.
I'll second kgun shooter's suggestion about the presentations given by Dr. Ingraffea. His point is that fracking is an engineering undertaking just like building a bridge. If your bridge design fails too frequently, you are not permitted to continue building bridges. If the aircraft you designed and built crashes too frequently, you are not permitted to keep doing it. Fracking is no where near the acceptable mean time between failures for most engineering projects.
The actual fracking takes place 8000 feet or so underground, well below the aquifer. One of the main issues is the cement job in the well casing. Another is the way the 'produced water' is handled. The industry decides when water coming up from the well after the fracking process stops being fracking fluid (the chemical cocktail used to break the rock and hold the cracks open) and is now considered produced water. Produced water can we sprayed into the air, dumped on roads, etc to get rid of it. An industry regulating itself with little or no oversight is a little scary to me.
And how much toxins are released from 1 good volcano eruption? Should we consider building catalytic converters on top of them?
With as much methane as is produced by the cattle industry, maybe we ought to figure a way of plugging up a cows methane hole Huh?
Bob
Please read and then try this:
apostrophe (')
comma(,)
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Apostrophe:
Rule 1:
Use the apostrophe with contractions. The apostrophe is always placed at the spot where the letter(s) has been removed.
Examples:
don't, isn't
You're right.
She's a great teacher.
Rule 2:
Use the apostrophe to show possession. Place the apostrophe before the s to show singular possession.
Examples:
one boy's hat
one woman's hat
one actress's hat
one child's hat
Ms. Chang's house
NOTE:
Although names ending in s or an s sound are not required to have the second s added in possessive form, it is preferred.
Mr. Jones's golf clubs
Texas's weather
Ms. Straus's daughter
Jose Sanchez's artwork
Dr. Hastings's appointment (name is Hastings)
Mrs. Lees's books (name is Lees)
Rule 3:
Use the apostrophe where the noun that should follow is implied.
Example:
This was his father's, not his, jacket.
Rule 4:
To show plural possession, make the noun plural first. Then immediately use the apostrophe.
Examples:
two boys' hats
two women's hats
two actresses' hats
two children's hats
the Changs' house
the Joneses' golf clubs
the Strauses' daughter
the Sanchezes' artwork
the Hastingses' appointment
the Leeses' books
Rule 5:
Do not use an apostrophe for the plural of a name.
Examples:
We visited the Sanchezes in Los Angeles.
The Changs have two cats and a dog.
Rule 6:
With a singular compound noun, show possession with 's at the end of the word.
Example:
my mother-in-law's hat
Rule 7:
If the compound noun is plural, form the plural first and then use the apostrophe.
Example:
my two brothers-in-law's hats
Rule 8:
Use the apostrophe and s after the second name only if two people possess the same item.
Examples:
Cesar and Maribel's home is constructed of redwood.
Cesar's and Maribel's job contracts will be renewed next year. Indicates separate ownership.
Cesar and Maribel's job contracts will be renewed next year. Indicates joint ownership of more than one contract.
Rule 9:
Never use an apostrophe with possessive pronouns: his, hers, its, theirs, ours, yours, whose. They already show possession so they do not require an apostrophe.
Examples:
Correct:
This book is hers, not yours.
Incorrect:
Sincerely your's.
Rule 10:
The only time an apostrophe is used for it's is when it is a contraction for it is or it has.
Examples:
It's a nice day.
It's your right to refuse the invitation.
It's been great getting to know you.
Rule 11:
The plurals for capital letters and numbers used as nouns are not formed with apostrophes.
Examples:
She consulted with three M.D.s. BUT She went to three M.D.s' offices. The apostrophe is needed here to show plural possessive.
She learned her ABCs.
the 1990s not the 1990's
the '90s or the mid-'70s not the '90's or the mid-'70's
She learned her times tables for 6s and 7s.
Exception:
Use apostrophes with capital letters and numbers when the meaning would be unclear otherwise.
Examples:
Please dot your i's.
You don't mean is.
Ted couldn't distinguish between his 6's and 0's.
You need to use the apostrophe to indicate the plural of zero or it will look like the word Os. To be consistent within a sentence, you would also use the apostrophe to indicate the plural of 6's.
Rule 12:
Use the possessive case in front of a gerund (-ing word).
Examples:
Alex's skating was a joy to behold.
This does not stop Joan's inspecting of our facilities next Thursday.
Rule 13:
If the gerund has a pronoun in front of it, use the possessive form of that pronoun.
Examples:
I appreciate your inviting me to dinner.
I appreciated his working with me to resolve the conflict.
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Comma
Rule 1:
To avoid confusion, use commas to separate words and word groups with a series of three or more.
Example:
My $10 million estate is to be split among my husband, daughter, son, and nephew. Omitting the comma after son would indicate that the son and nephew would have to split one-third of the estate.
Rule 2:
Use a comma to separate two adjectives when the word and can be inserted between them.
Examples:
He is a strong, healthy man.
We stayed at an expensive summer resort. You would not say expensive and summer resort, so no comma.
Rule 3:
Use a comma when an -ly adjective is used with other adjectives.
NOTE:
To test whether an -ly word is an adjective, see if it can be used alone with the noun. If it can, use the comma.
Examples:
Felix was a lonely, young boy.
I get headaches in brightly lit rooms. Brightly is not an adjective because it cannot be used alone with rooms; therefore, no comma is used between brightly and lit.
Rule 4:
Use commas before or surrounding the name or title of a person directly addressed.
Examples:
Will you, Aisha, do that assignment for me?
Yes, Doctor, I will.
NOTE:
Capitalize a title when directly addressing someone.
Rule 5a:
Use a comma to separate the day of the month from the year and after the year.
Example:
Kathleen met her husband on December 5, 2003, in Mill Valley, California.
Rule 5b:
If any part of the date is omitted, leave out the comma.
Example:
They met in December 2003 in Mill Valley.
Rule 6:
Use a comma to separate the city from the state and after the state in a document. If you use the two-letter capitalized form of a state in a document, you do not need a comma after the state.
NOTE:
With addresses on envelopes mailed via the post office, do not use any punctuation.
Example:
I lived in San Francisco, California, for 20 years.
I lived in San Francisco, CA for 20 years.
Rule 7:
Use commas to surround degrees or titles used with names. Commas are no longer required around Jr. and Sr. Commas never set off II, III, and so forth.
Example:
Al Mooney, M.D., knew Sam Sunny Jr. and Charles Starr III.
Rule 8:
Use commas to set off expressions that interrupt sentence flow.
Example:
I am, as you have probably noticed, very nervous about this.
Rule 9:
When starting a sentence with a weak clause, use a comma after it. Conversely, do not use a comma when the sentence starts with a strong clause followed by a weak clause.
Example:
If you are not sure about this, let me know now.
Let me know now if you are not sure about this.
Rule 10:
Use a comma after phrases of more than three words that begin a sentence. If the phrase has fewer than three words, the comma is optional.
Example:
To apply for this job, you must have previous experience.
On February 14 many couples give each other candy or flowers.
OR
On February 14, many couples give each other candy or flowers.
Rule 11:
If something or someone is sufficiently identified, the description following it is considered nonessential and should be surrounded by commas.
Example:
Freddy, who has a limp, was in an auto accident. Freddy is named, so the description is not essential.
The boy who has a limp was in an auto accident. We do not know which boy is being referred to without further description; therefore, no commas are used.
Rule 12:
Use a comma to separate two strong clauses joined by a coordinating conjunction–and, or, but, for, nor. You can omit the comma if the clauses are both short.
Example:
I have painted the entire house, but he is still working on sanding the doors.
I paint and he writes.
Rule 13:
Use the comma to separate two sentences if it will help avoid confusion.
Example:
I chose the colors red and green, and blue was his first choice.
Rule 14:
A comma splice is an error caused by joining two strong clauses with only a comma instead of separating the clauses with a conjunction, a semicolon, or a period. A run-on sentence, which is incorrect, is created by joining two strong clauses without any punctuation.
Incorrect
Time flies when we are having fun, we are always having fun. (Comma splice)
Time flies when we are having fun we are always having fun. (Run-on sentence)
Correct
Time flies when we are having fun; we are always having fun.
OR
Time flies when we are having fun, and we are always having fun. (Comma is optional because both strong clauses are short.)
OR
Time flies when we are having fun. We are always having fun.
Rule 15:
If the subject does not appear in front of the second verb, do not use a comma.
Example:
He thought quickly but still did not answer correctly.
Rule 16:
Use commas to introduce or interrupt direct quotations shorter than three lines.
Examples:
He actually said, "I do not care."
"Why," I asked, "do you always forget to do it?"
Rule 17:
Use a comma to separate a statement from a question.
Example:
I can go, can't I?
Rule 18:
Use a comma to separate contrasting parts of a sentence.
Example:
That is my money, not yours.
Rule 19:
Use a comma when beginning sentences with introductory words such as well, now, or yes.
Example:
Yes, I do need that report.
Well, I never thought I'd live to see the day…
Rule 20:
Use commas surrounding words such as therefore and however when they are used as interrupters.
Example:
I would, therefore, like a response.
I would be happy, however, to volunteer for the Red Cross.
Rule 21:
Use either a comma or a semicolon before introductory words such as namely, that is, i.e., for example, e.g., or for instance when they are followed by a series of items. Use a comma after the introductory word.
Example:
You may be required to bring many items, e.g., sleeping bags, pans, and warm clothing.
LMFAO @ Grntitan.
That is FRACKING hilarious.
But seriously copper, your subject matter may been taken a little bit more serious if you use better grammar and sentence composition.
Just Sayn' (that's for you Keller)
My post was neither a joke nor an attempt to make fun of you or anyone else. It was an attempt to educate you on the proper use of the Apostrophe and Comma. You fail to see that your poor use of punctuation and poor spelling loses the point you are trying to make. That sir is a real fact.
An education is a terrible thing to waste.
Copper, in the past 125 years 10's of thousands of oil and gas wells have been drilled in Pennsylvania. This state is the birth place of oil well drilling, how come the whole state is not polluted? One of the biggest oil spills was in the Arabian golf and after 4 years there wasn't a trace of any spill. Nature takes care of itself, stop worrying about drinking a little methane with your water.
See what I mean copper , "Nature takes care of itself, stop worrying" We can't hurt this planet, Rush said so. That may be true over the eons but in the meantime we get to live in a s*&%hole that is all fracked up. little Johnny
Copper: you need to get yourself educated...and i don't mean this in an insulting or underhanded slight. I have been going to to public forums in Pa. & Oh. since 2010...about the time the landmen started showing up in decent numbers making offers well above the going rate. The majority of the meetings time was taken up dealing with FUD (fear - uncertainty & doubt)...the same emotion you want your enemy to experience when they think of you. Basic human emotions when dealing with the unknown. Remember Chicken Little? Well, the sky isn't falling....however...large reserves of hydrocarbons are being discovered and .....assuming we the people keep our fingers (while engaging our brains)on our elected officials (minimum lease standards...a fracking energy policy that is reasonable....and an EPA/DEP who actually do their job and get in front of or at least paralell to the industry) we are gonna be alright.
However, unsubstanciated BULLSHAT like you opened with only stirs FUD in the large portion of people who won't or are not willing to take the time to use reason and research to find where the truths lie.
You will not find (1) substanciated incedent where fracking (vertical or horizontal) has damaged/tainted or otherwise entered the aquafer.
You will find evidence of shoddy cement jobs, job site spills, frack ponds emitting bad/harmfull odors...etc. It is the govts. job to regulate and oversee the process. They haven't always been on top of things. I think they are trying to catch up.
Contact your local legislater and ask him/her to bring you up to speed on what they are doing to promote the hydrocarbon industry while protecting landowners mineral rights and the environment.
Where's the spelchek funktgion?
Jamotom, Please tell why it is the governments' job to "DOOO Somethinggg!!!" after the smelly ponds and bad cement have appeared out of nowhere? TM
Methinks you have just answered copper's question.
Among copper's other false and silly claims is the claim that "some states have banded (the misspelling was his, not mine) fracking. Fracking is safe when done properly but the biggest problem with it is that it uses huge amounts of water, water that some places don't have to spare. Perhaps is the gentleman and his fellow liberal goobers got their heads out of the Daily Kos's orifice, they could actually get the facts and learn something.
I believe the people crying about fracking as much as I believe the ones crying about transporting more coal through Oregon via train. They're claiming the coal dust causes derailments, will turn the area by the tracks into a fog bank of coal dust, and that there will be so many coal trains that regular trains carrying food and goods will be curtailed and we won't be able to get food or supplies.
I am totally fed up with the greenies. I hope they venture into the woods and the wolves and cougars eat them.
Copper is a strong man that loves the outdoors, He has a great admiration for wildlife and respect for the game he pursues. He's like a Native American warrior, fault him not on his spelling or mastery of the written word...
Commend him greatly on his love of the land and God's creation.
Tinman: Who is tasked with regulating/overseeing industy?
When accidents like what occurred in the Gulf happen...read up on what role our govt. (paid) supervision played in that.
Tinman...go ask your local elected official (state level)why the DEP allowed the industry to use frak ponds in our humid and populated environment? They work fine in the arid sw & west)...Go to a contemporary deep shale well site and you will not find a frak pond..it's all selfcontained...the industry is very sensative to public reaction. I am in no way shifting blame from the industry operators who mess things up...however..we elect and should expect some basic competence from elected officials....ask yourself why Pa. allowed brine and flowback to be taken to muni water treatment plants to be diluted then dumped into the rivers (this practice has since been shut down).
We tasked them with overseeing Wall st. and see where that got us.
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Copper: there is light on the fracking horizon. However, it will come at some expense.
Consider these facts: * the average deep shale well requires between 3MM-8Mm gallon of water for a frac job - solution = (~95.5% water / 4% sand /.5% other) *10-20% of those fracking fluids will come back to surface within 1-2 wks from fracking. The average tanker can haul ~4000 gal at a time. *the well will continue to produce brine. *Do the math on how many truck trips it takes just to service 1 well bringing and taking out the water/flowback/brine...not to mention the mud/cuttings.
Where i am going with this is that "water" fracking creates alot of jobs for the trucking/landfill/injection and related industries. And these are good paying jobs.
There is new technology being used for fracking (couple of years old) that is being used in Canada, Texas & ohio..maybe more...and is being introduced in upstate new york to get around the "no drill" moritorium.
It uses compressed propane (turns it into a gel..introduce sand) and use as the fracking agent. Once the pressure is reduced the gel reverts back to a gasous state and is either recaptured at the well head or sent to the pipeline. The beauty of this process is that there is NO water used, no water to deal with after fracking and no spills to worry about. This process takes the pork off the plate of the bulk of the environmental worries.
Now..before an industry player hit me over the head for playing fast & loose with facts....this is a laymans version for brief explanation only.
Google GASFRAC...do your research.
Did a fine job of watching out for the common man on Wall S. didn't they.
It's the dog we have...and we need it to hunt for us...not select industries that feather govt.s bed...but that's a whole nother arguement I am to tired to think about.
according to the laws of Japan, the extensive areas over Tohoku and Kanto, which measures the radiation level of 40.000 Bq/m2, should be designated as radiation controlled area and the people should evacuate.
The government decided the extensive land couldn’t be given up, therefore abandoned the people there. These people have no option but evacuating home if they want to protect themselves from radiation, however, the government intends not to pay any compensation.
[...]
Due to the fallout from Fukushima, in the extensive area covering Tohoku and Kanto, the levels of cesium radiation exceed the standard of radiation controlled area (40.000 Bq/m2). The government are aware they abandoned the people in the contaminated areas.
[...] Off topic again, but I make the point...
I can't believe you guys are still fracking arguing about this fracking stuff. It's almost 1/4 after fracking 10 CST. Go to fracking bed already.
We're staying up late to study your interrnet punctuation lessons.
TinMan,
Stay tuned, tomorrow we are going over Periods and Question Marks. On Friday I hope to go over the proper use of Capital Letters. There will be some homework for the weekend.
Well I am done with this Fracking is wonderfull There is nothing to worry about cement casings never crack. The water is good for you go drink up its all a lie. And when your kid or grandkids gets Cancer and all around you are gas wells that were not regulated. Clean air and water is over rated . You people to smart for true Masters of words with no real meaning. Out of all the posts how many had any real info on the subject. We had we all survived Not all, to you can,t spell. A few had any real info on subject. And you wonder why 95% of people on here never post. PS Thanks for all real info on fracking was what I was after . Also exsplained when the well read truck drivers on site like fracking Not wanting to become Doctors any luck lot of DR jobs also cancer reserch
Tinman: I get your point...we can't give up.
Grntitan: may I suggest a basic sentence structure lesson please.
Copper, let me say it again...I AM IN NO WAY BELITTLING YOU.
However, you haved a responsibility to get yourself educated.
Go to "gomarcellusshale.com"...stay out of the general discussion forums, dig into the blogs and you find all sorts if fact based studies and analysis on fracking, water testing, dealing with the by products of fracking, etc.
"Also exsplained when the well read truck drivers on site like fracking Not wanting to become Doctors any luck lot of DR jobs also cancer reserch"
Please explain what you are trying to communicate here.
Jamotom I was interested in fracking info witch you gave and a couple others. Other than that I started to mess with the goof balls on here that never have any info on anything. Will keep them going for days self absorbed in there own small minds. Some of last part was and inside joke of sorts . Thanks again for the information . From now on my own rules are going to be if I ask a question and you don,t have real information on the subject please don,t respond Fair enough. I am not interest in any thing out side the subject matter . Is this not a reasonable Adult request , Well worth a try . .
OK fine.
Wasn't it Hillary who said, "Somewhere a village is missing it's idiot?"
Well I have to wonder if the water amount use is going to be and issue and also as far as I could find out the water used can not be cleaned. Some of the if not all the chemicals mix with water ,and not like oil it can not be remove from the water. I can find nothing that said other wise and is said to be in holding lined ponds that seems crazy. What I have read said the water is toxic FOR EVER . YES APrice time for you to go home. The subject matter way over you head. Go look for the dumb joke thread you will be king. You can spell jokes all day long You will be home for sure, If not rest of the fan club can help . I have a question what is the average mark up on a pair of trap shooting pants from China , PS didn,t want you to feel left out . .
Frack ponds are no longer being used (eastern ohio & western Pa.).
There are several competing technologies for the handling of flowback; one solution is to mix the flowback with an absorbant and bury in a landfill, the other..which emerged recently...is to use a centrifuge to wring the water out (which is then run thru filters and re-used while the remaining large particulate matter is disposed of in a landfill.
I will dredge up some links that discuss this issue and how produced waters from fracking are going to be and are currently being handled. This issue has become a major topic among the hydro engineers in the industry.
I am going to start a new topic (The Whole Fracking Deal)...it's getting to long to scroll down.
Thank you.
Appears that fracking is exempt from The Clean Water Act and Safe Drinking Water Act, due to the "Halliburton loophole" pushed through by former Vice-President/former Halliburton CEO Dick Cheney, exempting corporations from revealing the chemicals used in fracking fluid.
Congressional investigators say millions of gallons of diesel fuel has been used as fracking fluid,illegally. Only takes a quick search to find this.
Oh Johnny, be careful what you say about big business on this forum. Anything bad or true and the Baboons will be flinging poop at everyone!!
I was aware of the exemption and shocked when I first found that out . And also some of the chemicals ,I would say kind of scary stuff. If it was not a problem why have the exemption .
likes-to-shoot , How bout this one: the sob's need to be heavily regulated!
copper, Cheney had the power to keep government out of his pockets and he used it.
Then Hillary completed that statement by saying.........."And it was I"..............The village/villagers are doing quite well now...."thanks for asking"(they all responded in unison).
D.P.Reynolds
There was a list from the River report there are 54 chemicals are used in Fracking here are a few Butoryethanol ,Ethylheranol,farmaldehyde,Boric Acid,Ethylene, Methanol, Monoethanolamine,Dazomet,Acetic Anhydriole, Isopropanol, Propargyl, Sodium Bicarbonate, Diesel. These are a few that are know to be health issues. And they admit there have been leaks in a few states ware got in water. Mr Reynolds what has Hillery got to do with any of this, You have some Fracking related Info to add to thread
Copper, can you imagine them frackers using sodium bicarbonate? I thought only bakers used it along with some woman to deodorize their refrigerators. Also, did you ever consider the radon gas that's being emitted from all the drilling through granite?
Tool maker as I say this fracking is way different than past oil drilling as to chemicals used to make the slick water, These are just a few listed . They don,t dispute the list or the fact that there has been problems getting in drinking water. The push for a better way they have some options . There are countries that could use the money but have band it because of the risk. Again I am not against Fracking ,but unless there is a safe way I don,t want near my water . Some of the chemicals are said to bond with water and can,t be remove, again in past a lot of the heavy metals can be removed so to speak. Well yes I was aware ' I did not want to get into the Radon deal, there some issue as to what is natural and the amount that is drawn out by fracking from way down in the earth .
Johnny,
"Congressional investigators say millions of gallons of diesel fuel has been used as fracking fluid,illegally. Only takes a quick search to find this."
At about $4/gallon? Are they really THAT stupid? Or are you just being too gullible?
Chichay
$3.5 Million to frack a well in TX there are problems also as to water 5 million gallon to frack a well and they have drought conditions
Copper: your the kinda guy who takes pleasure in yelling FIRE in a crouded theater.
I challenge you to produce for us (1) confirmed instance where "fracking" caused a source of water to be contaminated.
Just one.
Well most all our information comes from the world wide web, Now I do realize the information can be slanted either way , as you said the water was at one point dumped into river after being run through a plant, question would they have stopped on there own. I do see the system as a disaster waiting to happen , cement casing bound to crack at some point, earth quakes shifts in era,s that have been mined and shift 5 to 8 million gallons of water each well that your info . I am in SW PA, Wells all around me so I am concern. My understanding is the EPA said any law suits involving contaminated wells that have been setteled the records are sealed is this not true. 65% of water comes back to surface so each well so around 3 to 6 million gallons toxic water. How many wells , so tell me why I should not be concerned .Well we will never run out of hot air or Gas with John Galt on here yet again no information.
Chichay, A search of "diesel fuel in fracking" only turned up 339,000 results. guess I am gullible. Of course these reports are from dumocrats tree huggers and pinko legislators. It is used to make a "fracking coctail" and I would bet they don't pay $4/gal. Haliburton paying $4 for diesel, ha. Did you even bother to do a search?
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