Brian I know exactly what the word integrity means

Are some of you stupid or what?

I am NOT trying to convince ANYONE to NOT vote for Romney.

My point is to not fool yourselves into thinking he is a friend of gun owners. Go ahead and vote for him, that's YOUR freedom of choice. But don't make up lies like he hasn't banned guns, or crap like "he won't ban guns" when his record clearly shows he has, that he has bragged about it, and continues to brag about it. Leopards don't change their spots.

Have some honesty and admit that you are voting for a gun banner simply because he is the lesser of two evils. A few of you have had the honesty and integrity to admit that.

Unfortunately, there are many important areas of concern for voters in the upcoming election. The second amendment, although very important to us as gun owners, isn't necessarily the most important among all the issues. I tend to think that our freedom as citizens is just a bit more important.

And if you feel that way you should vote accordingly.

I feel differently, and I will also vote accordingly.

The problem is when one individual dictates to another how they should vote, and then denigrates them when they won't vote their way.

Check your ridiculous ego, Brian. Again, nobody gives a rat's tookus how you vote, because you live in Oregon which is owned lock, stock and barrel by the Democrats (for three uninterrupted decades, by the way).

So put on your tinfoil hat and vote for whoever the hell you want - it's meaningless.

-Gary

If nobody gives a "rat's tookus" how Brian votes then why is it that so many are so obsessed with who he votes for? Gary is #1 on that list with his constant baiting of Brian. Unfortunately, Brian is unable to resist the bait so just keeps it going and going and going......

"Avoided Viet Nam era Draft by several draft deferments designating him as a "minister" while living in a platial estate."

You need to get your facts straight!

"When he was asked last December whether he had ever experienced austerity, Romney said he had lived in Bordeaux in the 1960s with primitive plumbing and heating systems. “It was a wake-up experience for me,”

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/03/29/mitts-mission-in-france-then-as-now-romney-worked-methodically-to-convert-skeptics/#ixzz1zikD4UDr

10Tenner

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The problem, 10Tenner, is that the left does not care about facts, and are pulling out all the stops to make Romney seem out of touch with the common working man. This is their game plan in several of the critical vote states, where the left won't defend Obama's programs, but instead attack Romney for living it up in France (which is untrue) and for laying off a lot of workers while working at Bain. Romney's gap is wider in these states. To narrow the gap Romney is going to have to be more vocal on getting his message out and defending his work at Bain. He might start by pointing out that more workers are jobless because of government restrictions and taxes on businesses than those that got cut loose because of Bain actions.

I do care about facts! Romney was a draft dodger. Period! I got my ass drafted in 1966 and was shot at for 13 months. Right Wing Nuts will rave and rave about Clinton and how he avoided the draft but yet turn the cheek when it comes to the many, many Republicans, including my favorite hero Ted Nugent, and how they avoided Viet Nam. As important as the Second Amendment is to the many shooteres on the site, just as important to me is how people my age responded to the possibility of fighting for our country! While I honor everyone's opinion on the Second Amendment, I fully expect the same courtesy.

blade819

Thank you for serving, Blade.

Sincerely,

Gary

Gary.... you are welcome but there are far more that gave far more than me. Our thanks and appreciation should go to those who have and are making the sacrafices.

blade819

My good friend John lost his eye there in Sept, 1968 and he says the same thing. I thank all of you and lament the senseless loss of the 58,000 who didn't make it back.

-Gary

More facts are needed. Did Romney actually draft dodge?

Draft dodging is failing to register for the draft, failure to report after being drafted, or getting deferment under false pretences.

So, did Romney do any of the above?

As I understand it, Odummy is a war hero. He was highly decorated when serving with the Kenyan Army.

Blade, the fact that you got drafted doesn't prove that Romney dodged the draft. You have provided no proof for your rididulous accusation. Legally avoiding being drafted is not "draft dodging" and, in fact, many people successfully avoided being drafted. Some did it by getting married, some by going to college, etc. There were many legal deferrments and I suspect you would have used one if you had been able. I did.

"designating him as a "minister" while living in a platial estate."

This is not true.

"When he was asked last December whether he had ever experienced austerity, Romney said he had lived in Bordeaux in the 1960s with primitive plumbing and heating systems. “It was a wake-up experience for me,”

He was not paid for his LDS mission, nor do missionaries live in luxurious estates! If the parents of a missionary cannot fund the mission expenses, there is missionary fund. Many parents take a second job, cut back on vacations, etc. and sacrifice to pay for a missionary. 10tenner

I hate N.E. politicians. Their all liberals even Romney but he is better than what we have, so our choices suck all they around. I just hope Romney accomplishes some real issues and not sit around and talk like this other poser we have in the Whitehouse.

Ponytail, not all N.E. politicians are liberals. Bernie Sanders of Vermont is a self-described socialist and Sal DiMasi, the former Speaker of the Massachusetts House is a convicted felon and currently in prison.

A commie and a convict. On second thought, maybe you're right.

John Galt.... you are wrong. I would not have used the deferment to avoid the draft. But thats me. While my personal opinion is, "if they call... you go" is most likely agreed to by my fellow Draftees, we also realize that there were many that went out of their way to avoid the draft through the deferments that were available. I have several friends who took advantage of this and they have felt guilt ever since. In My Opinion.... nothing else, if you were an able body male between the ages of 18 - 24 with a 1-A and then went out of your way to obtain a deferment purposely to change that rating, you are a Draft Dodger in my book. This also includes those who joined the National Guard (NG)who at the time of the Viet Nam war stood ZERO chance of being called into active duty. A funny story is when I was in boot camp with the 101 st at Fort Campbell KY in November 1966, the Draftees (US's) and Regular Army (RA's) who enlisted got the weekend leaves while the NG's and Enlisted Reserves (ER's) had to perform KP duty. In 1966 there was a reason for this. Once again this is my opinion based on experiences. This opinion is shared by the many, many Brother Draftee's of that era.

blade819

On the other side of the ledger.

"TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.

1.) Selma March Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google 'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.) ! !

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY; your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and for more.

Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter... Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. He is the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro).

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons?

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise); you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, despite saying, live on TV, which you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Miss-voted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY; you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel .

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY; you said let the delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russian army did the liberating.

So, who EXACTLY is this Obama guy and what is he trying to sell us?! Please get to work now...not enough of your loved ones and friends know about this fraud.

Does this guy ever tell the truth?????"

Thank you blade for that inspiring story. Apparently I was a draft dodger, according to your definition, and you have made me see the error of my ways. I'm so ashamed that I enlisted to avoid the draft. I see now that the noble thing to do would have been to wait to get drafted.

Whatever.

blade819