YEAH!!!!

What about the rest of it???

Still watching the news,,,,,Now they are saying that it is struck down under Commerce clause but may survive under a TAX,,,,,stay tuned......

yes they can tax, no they cannot regulate people and make them buy something. Also looks like states can opt out???

Are you guys reading the same news I am? I saw that SCOTUS has upheld the law!

In Plain English: The Affordable Care Act, including its individual mandate that virtually all Americans buy health insurance, is constitutional. There were not five votes to uphold it on the ground that Congress could use its power to regulate commerce between the states to require everyone to buy health insurance. However, five Justices agreed that the penalty that someone must pay if he refuses to buy insurance is a kind of tax that Congress can impose using its taxing power. That is all that matters. Because the mandate survives, the Court did not need to decide what other parts of the statute were constitutional, except for a provision that required states to comply with new eligibility requirements for Medicaid or risk losing their funding. On that question, the Court held that the provision is constitutional as long as states would only lose new funds if they didn't comply with the new requirements, rather than all of their funding.

Your source was premature.........upheld.......it is a Tax which is okay..hmmmmm

Now it is getting more confusing with more reporting. If some states opt out, those people in those states would not be covered under Medicare, then they said Medicaid, instead of Medicare.

We may not know what the decision really is for weeks or days.

The key comment on salvaging the Medicaid expansion is this (from Roberts): "Nothing in our opinion precludes Congress from offering funds under the ACA to expand the availability of health care, and requiring that states accepting such funds comply with the conditions on their use. What Congress is not free to do is to penalize States that choose not to participate in that new program by taking away their existing Medicaid funding." (p. 55)

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They cannot make us buy insurance, but they can tax us for not doing so.

the decision looks to be around 200 plus pages in length.

Full opinion at link above.

It's a victory for the Left regardless of how the mandate/tax thing is spun

This is just like the liberal newpapers, be the first to report something even if its wrong.

This will give the Left a bunch of momentum moving towards November. Obama will be hammered on the economy but will fire back that he "passed affordable care for all Americans".

Now our only shot if for the economy to stay stagnant. That's hard to say or imagine but it's really the only shot at not having him for another 4 years.

We got screwed today.

T

We are now SUBJECTS, no longer citizens. Under this decision the government can require us to do anything they want through their taxing power. Obama wins. Anyone not motivated to vote in November?

Don't let this setback cause you to not vote.

A decision to not vote at all is a uncanceled vote against us.

This is the sum of it all.

The court ruled that the mandate is unconstitutional under the Constitution's commerce clause, but it can stay as part of Congress's power under a taxing clause. The court said that the government will be allowed to tax people for not having health insurance.

Nuff said, it sucks.

Loop holes everywhere.

One question.

Does Congress have to go back and rewrite the bill to be able to tax the uninsured or with the decision is it written into law that way?

This means that that the tea party needs to rise up again and clean house in congress and the white house so we can repeal and start over with workable healthcare. The question I have is how will they collect the tax when 50% of the people do not pay taxes and get no refund?

LTS,,,,absolutely,,,,,,husseincare was one of the MAIN topics in 2010 and look what happened in the House and part of the Senate,,,,,,if Romney only has the sense to use it......

I'm thinking there may be a reason Justice Roberts voted this way. It may make it easier for congress to undo Obamacare at the legislative level if it's power is based on a tax. Congress can also vote to NOT tax.

TEA PARTY!

Whole lot of grief a comin' for the Dem's, and Rino's.

Didn't Obama repeatedly say "It is Not a Tax"? It's like they say, congress can say what they want, it is the lawyers that interpet the law. I am hearing that they admitted it was a tax a month ago. It is basically we don't matter anymore. This guy just runs roughshod on whatever he wants. I am so sick of this. But most will now go put their heads back in the sand. My state is so liberal, that we will push forward to incorporate this. Tim

The point remains, if you do not abide by the wishes of the Government in their edicts then you will be 'taxed'

It is still a case where the government is taking your property (money) disguised as a tax, if you do not do what they say.

Tme to dump the "Commerce Clause" and define further the powers of the Congress in it's ability to tax.

the fact is that health care costs have been on the rise since the 1970, because the government has seen fit to regulate and administer it and it will only get worse.

States will opt out of expanded Medicaid, because they will not be able to afford it, more poor people will have have health insurance, perhaps they will move from those States that don't to those that do.

If you think the guy runs roughshod now wait until he is near the end of his term in office whether it be this term or the next.

Remember the phrase, "taxation without representation" YOU ALL just witnessed it again!!!

Your Representative Dems and RINO's just TAX'ed you without listening to you!!

Actually they LIED to your face with Obo's blessing and the help of the drive by media.

They are all on RECORD as saying NO it is not a TAX but that's how their lawyers won the challenge.

The "Commerce Clause" does need revisited and over turned!

Maybe this will wake-up you fence straddlers!

Now, do I join the Tea Party or the Constitutional Party??

It is in. Done until and if congress changes the law.

Timberfaller,,,,,have to disagree with you,,,,,,we DID have representation,,,,,now we can truly see how IMPORTANT it is to stay involved and active in our political system,,,,,,as we can now see the result of complacency........

Join all of them and The Heritage Foundation as well.

Congress members will not know the difference when 100 of thousands of members represented overlap.

And vote in off year elections. The people you put in Congress and the Senate are more important than the POTUS.

That last sentence is absolutely true, Rick. The President does not really have that much power. If you have the majority of the Congress and Senate voting to approve a bill, it kind of makes the President helpless to veto, unless the opposing party controls both. Then maybe that option may make sense. That is why there needs to be compromise on these bills, to make it good for both parties, then if the President vetos the bill he looks like a schmuck.

What the hell, did Dan Rather come back?

Stl Flyn:

Almost nothing you just wrote is correct.

1. Most legislation requires a simple majority (of a quorum) to pass the House or Senate. It must pass both houses to be enacted.

2. A president can veto ANY piece of legislation - even if it passed by a unanimous vote in both houses of Congress.

3. If a president vetos a bill, Congress may attempt to override the veto. A successful override requires a two-thirds majority in the House AND Senate.

4. The opposition party can control the House AND Senate and still fail to override a veto.

The president's party only needs one third plus one vote of EITHER the House or Senate to kill an override attempt. For example, thirty-four (34) Senators would do it.

Here's why the details matter today...

Boner, Cantor and various other House GOP leaders have vowed repeal obummercare as soon as the July recess ends. Let's assume they're successful.

The Senate has 51 lib/dem members. In addition there are two 'independents' that ALWAYS vote with the dems. A repeal of obummercare will never see the light of day in the Senate between now and November.

Now fast forward to November 7, 2012 - the day after the election. Let's assume the House passed an act to repeal obummercare. Let's further assume that as of November 7th, the GOP has a Senate majority and immediately votes to repeal obummercare.

None of it means diddly squat if obummer is reelected. Neither the House or Senate will have anywhere near enough votes to override the inevitable veto.

sissy

Sissy,

I know what the process is. I was talking from a public sentiment, political point of view.

Recoil Sissy, Thanks for the 'clean glasses' look at what we've got.

ou.3200, Welcome to club "owned". PS, Have you seen a 'straight' election lately? TM

This from a candidate you are not allowed to have:

”I strongly disagree with today’s decision by the Supreme Court, but I am not surprised. The Court has a dismal record when it comes to protecting liberty against unconstitutional excesses by Congress.

“Today we should remember that virtually everything government does is a ‘mandate.’ The issue is not whether Congress can compel commerce by forcing you to buy insurance, or simply compel you to pay a tax if you don’t. The issue is that this compulsion implies the use of government force against those who refuse. Ron Paul

Get It?

They also want to add a tax on the sale of a home over a certain price. Too help pay for this health care bill.