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MTA Tom 22-May-12 - 06:57 AM ET
Unknown1 22-May-12 - 07:09 AM ET
cubancigar2000 22-May-12 - 07:54 AM ET
grnberetcj 22-May-12 - 08:08 AM ET
Bruce Specht 22-May-12 - 08:17 AM ET
hmb 22-May-12 - 09:05 AM ET
maddog 22-May-12 - 09:51 AM ET
warren 22-May-12 - 10:30 AM ET
dickgtax 22-May-12 - 01:14 PM ET
hmb 22-May-12 - 01:23 PM ET
wolfram 22-May-12 - 01:45 PM ET
grntitan 22-May-12 - 03:45 PM ET
Rebel Sympathy 22-May-12 - 09:10 PM ET
CharlesK80 22-May-12 - 09:46 PM ET
arend003 23-May-12 - 07:59 AM ET
Oscar Ray 23-May-12 - 08:45 AM ET
eightbore 23-May-12 - 03:36 PM ET
grnberetcj 23-May-12 - 04:15 PM ET
Auctioneer 23-May-12 - 04:23 PM ET


Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: MTA Tom
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 06:57 AM ET
Website Address: http://https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/travel/

Double and triple check any info you find online regarding concealed carry reciprocity.

This site will give you a start.

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: Unknown1
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 07:09 AM ET
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Concealed carry reciprocity is only one issue if you're transporting a hand gun across State borders.

Even if adjoining States have agreements-in-principle with your home State, there can and will be differences in where and how a weapon may be carried within a vehicle during travel.

Keller

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: cubancigar2000
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 07:54 AM ET
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Have carried all over the Midwest and the western states. Got in situations where the officer stopped me twice and I immediately told him I had a weapon and showed him my permit. No big deal in those two cases. One in Ks and the other in ColoraDO. They both ran a stolen report however. Back in the 80's I was driving from San Antonio to Fort Worth and the car broke down. Cop stopped and looked in my car and I had about 50 guns in the back but I was an FFL then and he called me a wrecker and left

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: grnberetcj
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 08:08 AM ET
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Let's see...

You take a pistol across state lines.

The pistol is hidden (concealed) from plain view.

The only reason to pull out and use the pistol is to save your life (or another person's)

The police arrive after the perp is dead.

So, after all the smoke clears and the local State's Attorney does not file charges due to self-defense..

As no one observed that the pistol was concealed, there can be no charges.

Ok...where's the problem?

Curt

Time to hear from the craphouse lawyer's now...go..

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: Bruce Specht
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 08:17 AM ET
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Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. keep it ouit pf plain site and have your permit with you and forget it.

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: hmb
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 09:05 AM ET
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When traveling through states where your lisense is not valid the gun must be unloaded and in a lock box. Travel from point A to point B is permitted as long as your license is valid in both places and you follow the procedure described above. HMB

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: maddog
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 09:51 AM ET
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I can think of one flaw in your clever plan, grnberetcj. You can absolutely never be sure the prosecutor will not file charges. It will go much better for you at trial if you were in legal possession of the gun to begin with. The Zimmerman case is a good example of "prosecutorial discretion".

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: warren
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 10:30 AM ET
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I live in western Nevada and travel into eastern Calif. a lot, it's ok to carry a pistol with one in the magazine in Nevada but in Calif you've got to have amo completley away from the weapon virtually not within reach as in the trunk. If they find that, they not only can take your gun but they can take your car and knowing Calif like I do I'm sure they will. I stop and remove the magazine, that's only one of the reasons I left good ole Calif.

warren

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: dickgtax
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 01:14 PM ET
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In North Carolina running my vehicle license will show that I have a CCW. I suspect that if I'm in another state and they run my license, it will show the same information. For that reason, I have my handgun in a locked case with no ammo when I'm in Illinois. Every other state I travel through has reciprocity.

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: hmb
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 01:23 PM ET
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If you follow Curt's plan you will be alive, which is good. But, you will also be behind bars, which is bad. HMB

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: wolfram
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 01:45 PM ET
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This is not legal advice but I wouldn't go on road trip unarmed.

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: grntitan
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 03:45 PM ET
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dickgtax,

As a resident of IL you are correct and prudent in properly storing your gun while here or passing through. Unfortunately at this point we don't have a CCW law. The point is, you can still legally enter and/or pass through IL with your firearms without any issues as long as you follow our communist gun laws. I don't like most of them anymore than the rest of you but at this point it is what we have. That said, here in the Southern part if the State we could not be more gun friendly and welcome shooters/hunters with open arms. Unlike what some would have people believe, the law is not waiting for you at the borders just to confiscate your firearms. Most know if you obey the laws here you never have one bit of trouble.

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: Rebel Sympathy
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 09:10 PM ET
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I carry everywhere when I travel.

I am 66 years old, travel with my wife, am not covered with tattoos, don't drive a black SUV with tinted windows, don't dress in black t-shirts - and don't speed.

What's the chance I'm going to be pulled and searched???? I'll take that risk.....

Mike

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: CharlesK80
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Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 - 09:46 PM ET
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When you are charged, tell them Grnberetc on TS.com gave you the OK (it was his idea too) and he will represent you after he finds his law license.

Not sure your homeowner’s insurance will cover it. How about it, Grnberetc ?

And if your car was used...hope you and your witness wife do not have any plans for the next year or two.

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: arend003
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Date: Wed, May 23, 2012 - 07:59 AM ET
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I almost moved to New York till I read their laws. just having a revolver is a crime and to get a permit legally is very complicated. Even traveling across NY it appears it is highly dependent on the officer who might stop you. Just my 2 cents Tom

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: Oscar Ray
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Date: Wed, May 23, 2012 - 08:45 AM ET
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If you are stopped, why are you going to tell the officer you have a concealed firearm???? If he asks to search your car, the answer is NO!!!!! He cannot search you if he does not have probable cause, (stop and frisk) has certain limitations as he has to have Reasonalbe Articulable Suspicion to frisk you.

After spending almost 30 years in Law Enforcement, they will get a "NO" from me when asked if they can search my vehicle. The "NO" DOES NOT give them PC to search your vehicle.

I am lucky in that I can LEGALLY carry in all 50 states thru the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (HR218). Yes, there are places that I cannot carry like Federal Buildings, etc, but I know that going in and respect the law.

If you have to use your firearm to defend your life, isnt that better than having your next of kin bury you???

Just a thought!

Oscar

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: eightbore
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Date: Wed, May 23, 2012 - 03:36 PM ET
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Rebel Sympathy has it nailed down. "Why would they stop me? Why would they search my car?"

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: grnberetcj
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Date: Wed, May 23, 2012 - 04:15 PM ET
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Here ya go Charles...a little something you are used to munching on...

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Subject: Leaving pistol while traveling at home
From: Auctioneer
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Date: Wed, May 23, 2012 - 04:23 PM ET
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As someone said above, better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6. How true that is.

Some states don't like handguns no matter what. It all depends on the cop. When I travel I have my handgun in the car. I have it where I know where it is and at hand. Yes I also have a permitt. If the cop's don't ask then don't tell them. If they want to search your car then say as nice as you can "no sir you may not". Be nice and respectful. They must have a good reason to do so and or a warrent. They don't have either one then they can't do anything.

Carry it and shut up.

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