What are the plans for generating year round income?

HM

Gentlemans club! Just kidding.

Stl Flyn The WTA has 38 acres of commercial zoned property on Highway 13 get ahead of the rest and build one there.

I went back and looked at the WTA website, and it looks to me tha the WTA will come up short about 1.5 to 2 million dollars on money. If the WTA lets people on their board go around and calling other Wisconsin Shooters ass holes. they may find it to be a little hard to raise money. It's to bad that Don isn't able to read a post. I at no time said there weren't eatting places around Rome, I said the Wisconsin Rapids was 20 mins. away,someone questioned it so I stated that Mapquest confirmed the 20 min and a distance of 12.9 miles. Don you seem to be going off on three different people, buddy what's your problem? The camping thing is completely crazy, why would any shooter in the state give money so the WTA could run a camp ground, I wouldn't consider that any more than a gentleman's club. I encourage anyone that sees this thread to go back and read Don's statements and remember he is the face of the WTA. The WTA made him a director when everyone else refused to run. I wish Don had run in the election, I know someone would of stepped just to keep Don from getting the Job......."On Wisconsin"

Maybe you should take a look at Michigans home grounds and how it is run. :) As far as camping and the rest. Can't be that much different we are right next door.

Tom,

All I ask is that you get the facts straight before you post something. There was a reason the threads were deleted. Read the explanation on the website forum announcement section.

As for Don, I agree sometimes he does not always come accross to great on the forum. However, take the tone with a grain of salt and get the message he is trying to convey. Remember, you want him to respect you as a shooter, show the same consideration to him as a director. He may have been appointed to the position, but he stepped up to volunteer after no one else decided to run. Remember, you did have the opportunity to step up and run yourself but did not. Infact in my time on the board (over 8 years) you never attended a WTA board meeting to my knowledge.Lack of attendence leads to lack of knowledge.

Brad Patterson WTA Website Moderator WI State Shoot Tournament Director

I think when it's all completed most of the trap fields will be donated. The report already shows 14 of the 30 pledged. There are many other items that can be "donated" but I haven't seen much discussion about it. I know that I stumbled across it and approached my dad and brothers and we donated the money for a gun rack on the trap that our gun club donated. Maybe there has been something in the newsletter.

I also think Brad pulled the plug on those threads a little quickly. This is a devisive issue and there are a lot of emotions on both sides. The questions posed by several were legitimate questions. Unlike this website, I believe the WTA website and it's dicussion forum is owned by the WTA members. The members have the right to voice their opinions. Everytime something gets a little tense Brad deletes the posts and the sight goes quite for a while. I believe the directors have a little thicker skin than that. Let them run there course as long as they're staying out of the gutter.

Just my opinion as a former WI shooter.

Sorry Tom, but we do not make it a habit to delete postings on the forum. Since the inception of the current website. Been about 4 years I believe, we have deleted postings 4 times. One was first week we started the site. One during a negoitiation, the recent homegrounds one and a single shooters post that was directed towards me in a very derogatory manner and was only deleted after a couple emails and 1/2 doz calls asking me to delete it.

Otherwise a topic will get deleted during normal housekeeping if the topic hasn't been touch for over a month.

Brad: I don't remember posting about the deleted threads, I read the WTA's website and Al and Dick were upset that you deleted the questions they were asking! I believe you also were asking for a business plan!

Now Don's behavor is unexcussable, he has been out of control and if you think I'm looking for respect from Don, your wrong! My point is that Brad Patternson or anyone else that contected with WTA shouldn't be on trapshooter acting the way Don has been acting! It really a very bad thing for Wisconsin and the WTA. I'm disappointed that we can't have anything constructive, ask a question of a Director without Don big mouth trying put anyone down that asked a reasonable question. What he says just degrades fellow shooters, maybe he should be working a little harder for our respect!!!!!

shooter glasses, his comment regarding the threads was directed at me.

Brad, Whether it was twice or whatever, I still think you are too quick to delete controversial threads. Personal attacks aren't needed, but can be weeded out without deleting the entire thread. Just my opinion, you can run your website anyway you want.

Glasses. I, like you in you last post am not looking for YOUR respect. As for voting you MAY get your chance next year.

I haven't degraded my "fellow shooters' mainly just you. Why because it is easy. Why not ask me in person you see me most Sundays. Then I could degrade you in private. Where do you get this Iowa stuff? It has probably been around 10 years or more since that was discussed. If living in the SE makes you a city boy and being a city boy is being like you then I'm moving. Atlease the nice people up there want a home grounds there. And you know when we have BOD meetings up there we have alot of them at the meeting. And we have a few dedicated shooters from down here drive up there. When they were down here other than my self almost nobody showed up. How many meetings have you ever attended in the years you have been shooting? And when you talk about them the way you did who is degrading now? Again for resturants. Critters is not the biggest one there. And again back to your math. If we say the project is going to be about$2.5 million and we showed you that we already have about 1.5 plus more to come and the camping leases to shooters that should bring us pretty close to $1.75 to $2 million. So how does $2.5 minus $2 equal 1.5 to 2? You asked for numbers and we gave you some and you still don't pay attention

Mia. The idea of a telephonic shoot was discussed. The way I understood it the ATA said we have to have the annual meeting at the State shoot and it has to be in one place.

Don Mittag SE Zone director

Yes Don I think I understand, your math, I said the project would be about 3 million and it looks like the WTA has about 1.5 million, so your short about 1.5 million, You said with leases, you might have 1.75 million, but because you didn't know, but you were hoping for as much as two million with leases. So 1.75 million could be as high as 2 million or it could only be 1.75 million, because your quessing. So these are your estimates, you don't really know. So you picked a 2.50 million and made the money already set aside two million. So it would look like I was taking 2.5 million and subtracting 2 million and coming up with 1.5 million not 500,000. Don I think my math make a little more sense than yours.

Second no one ever said Critters was the biggest restaurant by Rome,where do you come up with this stuff. If you think I'm the only one your picking on go back a read your posts........I quess we are all bad people, down here in the south east zone, just a bad group! You're the only good guy of the bunch and you're the only guy that gets it. "the nice people up there want a home grounds"!!!!

I read in Trap and Field that there was going to be a ground breaking ceremony on April 19th at the new home grounds. True? If so, looks like all systems are go for the new facility.

Specks. Ok you said ONE OF THE BIGGER restaurants. It isn't even that. I can't even find that it even exists. It is amazing. You ask for numbers and when you get them you use your own anyway. So why did you want the WTA to show you the numbers? Yes you said one thing and the WTA said something else. So what makes you figures better that ours. You said because I don't know, well what makes you the expert. Atleast I'm see what is in the plan. I didn't pick $2.5 million. That is what is on the WTA web site or haven't you bothered to read it yet. You said we would be $1.5 to $2million short. We said that the project would be about $2.5 if we already have $1.5 with more to come where do you get we are 1.5 to 2 million short? If we did't get a penny more in donations we still would only be $1 million short. At the most. And believe me we will get more donations. Not everyone in the SE Zone are bad people just one or two.