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Now the Muslim community is saying their faith is being targeted because of a few Muslim fanatics. My question is why should we allow them in the military when we don't trust them to board a plane without close screening ? Duh! I sure would not want my son or daughter to have to go to combat beside a person of the Muslim faith. I believe that our military has been infiltrated with people with terrorism in mind.
I just saw Col. Ralph Peters on Fox and Friends a this morning. He stated, in no uncertain terms, the PC. police are alive and well in the military also. If you go through the litany of things this murderer has said in the past, he should have been booted long ago. Col. Peters said if he wasn't a member of a protected race, he would have been. God help us all.
Targeted???? HUmmmm, that sounds like a good idea !
So, if your a white christian, you are targeted.
Lew, i agree with you 100%. I think this guy is just the tip of the iceberg. I would lay money down on this one that in the near future there will be more of this. Bulge.
Hasan admitted that he was a Muslim first and an American second. And Obama said, "Don't jump to conclusions". What the hell would you conclude?
CSM Jon Reitz (Ret)
I figure the gun grabbers will use this as ammo for another push for stricter gun control laws. One thing I`m sure of is if everyone on the base were carring a side arm the nutball wouldn`t have killed as many as he did. God please help us. Larry
The infiltration concept is probably, unfortunately, very overlooked here.
We know these people exist. Why wouldn't they infiltrate the military, and gain access to weapons and tactics?
I can not understand why they are being targeted????
car bombings
suicide bombings
Iran
Iraq
beheading
it goes on and on.............
tony
"a member of a protected race", now that's interesting!
Gne J
Protected race. yep, thats the problem
No. 1 world threat.
Spread of Islam.
I've got a hell of an idea,,,,,,KILL EM ALL,,,,,,before they kill us,,,,,,
somebody had to say it,,,,,
'nuf said!
Curt
during ww11 we kept japanese and german americans in check until we won the war. but then we wanted to and did win that war.
The really interesting thing in all this is the fact that Muslim organizations & groups,both of the civil & religious type,are not rising up in fury & publicly condemning in the media,acts of this nature. Why are they not stidently saying in the loudest voices how they condemn these types of things,that these types of things are not a part of Islam? Can someone please answer that?
I have been listening to a series of history lessons titled "The Wisdom of History" (The Teaching Company) lectures by J. Rufus Fears, Ph.D. of the University of Oklahoma. In this excellent series of lectures he points out that freedom does not have the same meaning in different cultures. He also made the point that while as a country we separate church and state this is a distinction that does not occur with Islam. Thus if the state/religion are one it is not difficult to imagine that there are a large number of Islamic followers who may well welcome the opportunity to do damage to our country via individual or communal acts of violence. I highly recommend the lectures of Dr. Fears on his views of the wisdom of history.
j born
jwells
"during ww11 we kept japanese and german americans in check until we won the war."
Just who were they and how did they tell what they were? How did they keep them in check???????
Bob Lawless
Uugh!
RunGun's point is dead-on. If Muslims are so concerned, then why is it so uncommon to ever hear one of them speak-out publicly against Muslim terrorism? How many Muslims did you hear express sympathy or sorrow after their brethren murdered 3000 innocent Americans on 9/11? In my opinion, many do not speak out because they feel little sympathy for the murder victims (infidels), and most of the rest do not speak out because they fear their fellow Islamic whackos more than we do. They know first-hand how dangerous the radical Muslims in their own ranks can be.
Do you happen to know any Muslims or former Muslims? BTW, a "former Muslim" is rare because in many cultures it's their sworn duty to kill anyone who leaves the faith. I am fortunate enough have a very good friend who came here from Iran as a young adult. After talking to him, and others from that part of the world, at length, about life over there it was clear that the notion of Islam being a "religion of peace," is a bunch of BS for the most part, as is the peaceful interpretation of the Qur'an which was drilled into me in college. In Iran, and other countries in the Middle East, generations of children have been taught to hate America from the age of four or five. Hatrid of Western culture is taught in schools just like reading and arithmetic.
Are most Muslims peaceful? YES, absolutely. But they and their opinions do not matter because, in general, they do not have the courage to speak out or try to control the hateful minority who steer their religion's destiny and threaten the rest of the world. As is the case in many difficult situations and conflicts -- if you do not have courage, then you and your opinions simply do not matter. Without courage, conviction and action, you are meaningless.
So, in closing, if you happen to be a Muslim and are upset about being "targeted" because of "a few fanatics", then stand up and do something about it. Police your own, educate your youth, and work with the authorities to root-out the hateful savages cowering behind your religion. Speak-out publicly and try to help steer the destiny of the Islamic faith instead of letting it be hijacked by radicals driven by hatrid and an adulterated interpretation of the Qur'an. If you want to be an American, then act like one by having some courage and decency. If you can do that, then welcome to America. If not, then shut up and accept that your cowardice makes you a big part of the problem.
-Gary
PS: Stop treating your women like crap too.
For my money the White House has been infiltrated by Muslims and tax dodgers. Do we all know how afraid we truly should be?? We need to take this country back at the mid term electiosn get out and start talking to people now!Ask me if I care what Muslims think about being targeted! I'm all for a round up and and sending them back to Mecca
The bleeding heart liberals do not want profiling yet if we were in Iran, Iraq, or even Mexico we would be profiled to the point of no return ... Like lawyers and car salesmen 99% of them give the other 1% a bad name, same thing with Muslims ... This guy should be put in front of a firing squad just like they would do in a Muslim country, why Doctor him back into good health and then do it ..? WPT ... (YAC) ...
think about it
1. a muslim in the us army 2. a muslim shrink with mental problems when he was just an intern 3. they let him go into a menatl health profession 4. they let him be invalved in a war...were we have conflicts going on in muslim countrys.
5. they let him do psycotherapy on our military...god not allah only knows what he could have programed them do.
6. what a nation of intelligent people we have.
OICU812, Curt: Are you guys seriously suggesting that the United States engage in the mass murder, (genocide) of over 1 BILLION people, (20% of the world population)??Man, I am sorry I read this thread!!! Very disturbing.....Walt
No.. I'm not thinking mass murder.. just don't put them in a position to do harm..to AMERICANS.. God loving.. and GOD fearing AMERICANS...
Hey,wait a minute about this mass murder thing!!!!! Do you honestly believe if you gave Osama & his bunch a half dozen nukes & the means to deliver,do you think they would give them to the Isralies for safekeeping. Or do you think you would see a half dozen US cities disappear. Yes,we did it. Was it necessary??? We killed a lot of innocent Japanese with those 2 bombs but I am sure we saved many times more Japanese. And a lot of our own. What the radicals want is to kill just to kill.
The only way to eliminate cockroaches is to kill all of them, like they would us if they had a way or means to do it, that includes you and your family Rvator97 ... The time is coming, soon it will be the time ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
In case you haven't noticed THEY declared war on US,,,,,,geeezzzzzz
I think we should have the military dip all their ammo in pig blood and put a little in all the artillary shells and bombs. Or at least tell the enemy we do. oz
Juat what are we supposed to think when a man starts shooting people indiscriminatly while yelling Allah Akbar.
warren
Real scary stuff! We Americans, christians, seem not to be safe anywhere. I agree with OICU 812, they have declared war on us and we need to start protecting our homeland and get the hell out of the mideast. Our boys are dying over there and now here!! Lest we forget 9-11, crap, what is wrong with us???
PerazziBigBore
"No.. I'm not thinking mass murder.. just don't put them in a position to do harm..to AMERICANS.. God loving.. and GOD fearing AMERICANS..."
Wow what are you all saying that this American is different than all other Americans because he is Muslim?????
He has a history of mental health problems yet you all blame his actions on his religion???? Well so much for the first amendment under the Constitution of the United States.
It would seem that you have a right to practice any faith you wish as long as it isn't Muslim. If you are mentally ill and you are a Muslim you are the piece of crap on the planet.
If you are mentally ill and a GOD fearing American you are allowed in a position to harm Americans. If you are Muslim mentally ill or not you aren't supposed to be allowed in a position to harm Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"If you want to be an American, then act like one by having some courage and decency. If you can do that, then welcome to America."
"In this excellent series of lectures he points out that freedom does not have the same meaning in different cultures. He also made the point that while as a country we separate church and state this is a distinction that does not occur with Islam."
"Ask me if I care what Muslims think about being targeted! I'm all for a round up and and sending them back to Mecca"
None of you seems to understand that Nidal Malik Hasan is an American he was born here he is a natural born citizen of this country(The United States).
"1. a muslim in the us army 2. a muslim shrink with mental problems when he was just an intern 3. they let him go into a menatl health profession 4. they let him be invalved in a war...were we have conflicts going on in muslim countrys."
So tell me during WWII did we ban Christan's from being involved in a war in Christan countries that had conflicts going on????
I don't no but to me just by the responses here there might be some that are targeting the Muslim faith.
Now I am not Muslim nor do I care if they take every Muslim in this country or the world for that matter and eliminate them. Please read what is here and what is being said. Apply it to the title of this thread and ask yourselves if what is written here isn't exactly what the Islamic community is referring to.
Again Hasan was Born in Virginia USA.
Bob Lawless
P.S. Janet it is called Liberalism that is what is happening to us.
OK... that's it...no more opening of ANY non trapshooting threads for me! Such bigotry, blind hatred, ignorant, anti-constitution, anti-American, stupid ideas....This is depressing...you guys are NUTS! So long, Walt
see ya,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,do us Americans a favor and don't come back,,,,
Maybe not all Moslems are terrorists, but so far all the terrorists have been Moslems....
Frank C
"Maybe not all Moslems are terrorists, but so far all the terrorists have been Moslems...."
Frank I think you may be incorrect about that.
Bob Lawless
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. I don't hear of mass murderers running around yelling Jesus is great. How do you think some muslim community would feel if some devout christian went on a rampage in some muslim town in Mich. and was yelling Jesus is great?
Rvator 97,don't feel that way. Yes,there are some less than satifactory comments. But that is our right to do so. A lot of good ones were made,too. Keep that in mind. I watch a pistol site where this type of discussion would absolutely not be tolerated. I find that place to have a standing that is no better or be better morally or more patriotic than TS.
Suit yourself Bob.....if you must, add "most all" to the second sentence....I stand by my comment.....best reread it and then argue with facts not opinion....
Frank C
"Suit yourself Bob.....if you must, add "most all" to the second sentence....I stand by my comment.....best reread it and then argue with facts not opinion...."
Frank please if "most all" would have made this a true statement then you should have put it in. That is a fact not an opinion.
Speaking of fact Frank did you ever hear of Timothy McVeigh or Terry Nichols? Well I have Frank as far as I know Tim McVeigh got more punishment than any of the rest of the terrorist that performed acts of terrorism against the US.
BTW Frank those are facts your post is an opinion. Also I don't know what a Moslem is and that is what I was referring to as a point of humor. You however seem to feel I attacked you about facts and opinions. So I added a few just so would feel better.....LOL
Bob Lawless
We kept the Germans and the Japanese in concentration camps during WWII whether they were a threat or not. We did not take chances. There have been a couple of instances where some nut job caucasion Christian faith types have committed acts of domestic terrorism but for the most part it has been Muslims. They are told from birth in their religious teaching that the infidels, that is anyone that is not a Muslim, must be put to death. That is not just the radicals. That is all Muslims. It is in the Koran. Now that is a good reason in itself to be very wary of all Muslims. Including the ones in the government.
The 72 old virgin reward is a mistake ---the promise is " a 72 year virgin ".Dum BA**T**DS !
I intend to put a rant together and post it hear. I also picked up the King Hussien Obama press comferance and noted the five minute intraduction before he dined to comment on the FT.HOOD obamanation not mispelled just a new spelling.
I MENTIONED IN ANOTHER THREAD THAT-- THAT MAN SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME" And the caps are on purpose.
I am not an American ---Canadian/Israeli -- so before I would do a post -I would ask my shooting brothers if they would indulge me. I will wait to see if you would like to hear my perpective from here. I warn yah it won't be nice or PC......MIKE
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Bob, you best do some research about Moslems if you are going to take everyone to task re "Muslims" you really ought to already know....
As for McVeigh and Nichols, I believe Mc Veigh is pushing up daisies along with most "successful" terrorists, the only difference is in the case of McVeigh WE or the Govt got to do him in...whereas most others do themselves in..as for Nichols, he got multiple life sentences and when paroled he will move to Amherst Mass and live peaceably with the fools there in that town......
so you have listed ONE non muslim terrorist act
shall I start to list the hundreds, no maybe thousands of terrorist acts carried out by Muslims?? Do I really need to? Have you forgotten? I am quite sure you read the paper, and we all know you spend a few minutes a day on the internet...
AMHERST (AP) -- A Massachusetts town has voted in favor of inviting two men detained at Guantanamo Bay military prison to resettle in the community, if they are ultimately cleared of terrorism ties and released.
Amherst Town Meeting on Wednesday called on Congress to repeal the ban on allowing cleared detainees to live in the United States and then moved to invite two to town.
The petition article was brought forward by Pioneer Valley No More Guantanamos.
Select Board member Gerry Weiss spoke in favor of granting asylum to cleared detainees to make amends for unjust suffering.
Board Chairwoman Stephanie O'Keeffe said Town Meeting doesn't have expertise to offer meaningful guidance to Washington, and is concerned that the gesture could be misinterpreted as sympathy for terrorists.
Someone show me that the following is not true:
"Islam condones and encourages the killing of infidels to spead the faith."
Hoosier Daddy,
"...anyone that is not a Muslim, must be put to death. That is not just the radicals. That is all Muslims. It is in the Koran."
Where in the Koran does it say that?
Bushmaster,
Someone show me that the following is not true: "Islam condones and encourages the killing of infidels to spead the faith."
You're asking people to prove a negative. If you make a statement, it is your responsibility to prove it's true. Having said that, I tend to believe it's true. The problem is that people on the left and the right tend to remember the Constitution only when it suits them.
R/s,
Frank C
"so you have listed ONE non muslim terrorist"
McVeigh and Nichols= ONE, you count well also......LOL
Bob Lawless
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Charlie, it is just like the Ragu spaghetti sauce commercial. "It's in there".
Bushmaster,
Bravo, sir!
Hoosier Daddy,
I've never fallen for the "peaceful religion" line, but I try to avoid saying things I can't back up with quotable fact. I've heard and I think read that the Koran says they are to "chop off the heads of unbelievers" and I heard that long before 9/11, but I never quote that because I am not interested in reading the Koran just to see if the quote is true.
R/s,
Mr. Phillips:
Yes, it does say that, and I previously gave the chapter and verse in the Qu'uran (Koran) that stetes infidels (non-believers) are to be subjugated (enslaved) or put to death.
This is the book that ALL Muslims declare holy and are guided by. Most devout Muslims also Obey faithfully the dictates of just about any Mullah that is around them.
Walt, you can still be judgemental, but you have to put it in a place that makes sense.
Your rants seem very far left to me.
HM
HM,
I just checked and this appears to be the first time you've posted on this thread, so maybe you're mixing this thread with another one.
How is asking someone to back up their statement leftist or judgmental? And how is that a rant? If I sit quietly and blindly accept everything others say, is that then being right wing? I think you are the judgmental one here.
R/s,
More from the Koran:
[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
Check it out here:
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=114839
Mike: Please post or pm it to me in the event my libby friends can't handle what you have to say! Tom Rhoads
Yes, Charles, I said previously.
That did not mean on the present thread. It meant on a previous thread.
Check out Bushmaster's link. Most knowledgable people know about the Koran's exhortations to kill infidels.
These people are nuts. They let the mullahs run their whole country, and indoctrinate their 5 year olds into chanting and religious frenzy.
You must have had your head in the sand for the last 8 years.
Get informed, for crying out loud. Kool-Aid is deleterious to your health.
HM
We will never win until our leaders realize that our enemies want their children to die as much as we want our children to live.
RunGunIPSC
You seem surprised a significant number of Muslims and/or Muslim organizations failed to condemn this cowardly, murdering, POS Hasan and other “acts of this nature”.
I’m surprised that you’re surprised. Why would you expect condemnation now when the most common reaction in the Muslim world to the 911 attacks was spontaneous street celebrations??
Never-the-less, for purposes of discussion and debate, let’s say Hasan WAS loudly condemned by Muslims. How exactly would that change anything?
GW22:
You pointed out that most Muslims are peaceful. I’m not challenging that opinion but I respectfully pose the same question to you. How is that germane to this discussion and exactly how does it change anything?
sissy
This has been going on for 1300 years. Will it ever stop? No. Not until one sect is destroyed, and that will never happen. Why will it never happen? Because, Stalin and Hitler have left the building...........
Should we, I wonder, read the Koran??? I mean I don't know what it says just what other people have told me. I truly believe, however, that they advocate death to infidals (us). What say you??
I just seen some information that this terrorist used to attend the most dangerous mosque in the nation in DC. I think the news media will sit on the facts about this coward.
Janet, read it I have. You will be enlightened. Remember; "Know thy ememy and thy enemy will be yours." And of course; "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."
I'm actually glad this bastard is still alive. For once I won't mind tax dollars going for room and board.A few years in Levenworth, and the hell he will put up with every single day before they stand him up in front of a firing squad( hopefully) will be worth it.Kind of like a child molester in regular prison.
Shot410gage - makes sense to me. Thanks. I guess a library would have copy? I'll check locally and after I read it, I'll probably comment somewhat L.O.L.
HM,
"You must have had your head in the sand for the last 8 years."
What could I have possibly said that would make you say something as stupid as that? I only wanted to know from where in the Koran he made his statement because if I do ever repeat it, I only would do so if I knew that it were based in documentable fact.
"Get informed, for crying out loud. Kool-Aid is deleterious to your health. "
I've tried to be respectful with you, but you have crossed the line. My youngest son is in Iraq fighting the ragheads on his second tour. Four men from my own platoon came back from Beirut in bags. I was supposed to go on their relief pump. Had I been selected for the first pump, I would have been in the Comm Center and been one of those bodies in a bag. Don't you EVER think that you have any business lecturing me about the Islamic threat, you sorry, worthless piece of dung.
Disrepectfully submitted,
Charlie,
Thank you for your and your son's service.
Ladies and gentlemen,,,,while emotions are running HIGH on the subject, when others want to become knowledgeable and conversant,,,,we can't jump on a potential advocate,,,,
During the current war that we are in with Muslims,,,,we have to find a way to seclude them from infiltrating our ranks or we will see more of this,,,,a truly sad for America and her troops....
Charles:
God Bless you, your son and all who defend our freedom
Lou
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Bet I could find some drain cleaner to us on his sorry excuse for living,,,,probably throw some pig blood in for good measure!!!!
Did the ACLU miss this one about a "state" promoting religion???? Does the COTUS not apply to Muslims and only to Judeo-Christianity????
Hmmmm, hmmmm, hmmmm
Maybe a Constitution scholar can help us....
Muslims just need to go home and quit stirring the pot! If you dont like being the center of attention, SHUT UP,BEHAVE or simply GO HOME!
Dont know what the US ever expected to gain From these "Wars" What was gained? Too many things of our past have taken place as precaution, like rounding up germans and japanese during time of conflict, WTF why not this time? Let them hijack the jet taking them to their homeland? Let them be in thier promised land over their we have enough AMERICANS looking for jobslet them drive cab.
I guess there are just too many rules to this new war stuff BUT if they want it over for good they need turn a bunch of good old boys loose with shootin benches VARMINT RIFLES and coolers full of beverage and see how long before they surender for real. Let allah sort em out, cause GOD is looking out for our guys.
the most important thing gained is that the "wars" over there, were not wars over here....
I have one comment: "TAlk to the Israeli's and ask them how comfortable/trusting they would be in their politcal/military system if the Muslums were involved??? They have been dealing with them for thousands of years...
Well, Mr. Phillips, first of all, Kudos for your son's service in the Muslim world.
Your challenge to prove the Muslim beliefs, and your poke at me regarding my reference was taking it to another level on your part.
If you expected a Valentine you have the wrong guy. If I had been in your shoes I would have done the research instead of demanding proof from others.
I'll ignore the baseless name calling and hope you have a wonderful life.
Try not to foam at the mouth quite so much.
HM
Clay,,,,I would say they are pretty "comfortable/trusting",,,,CAUSE THEY DON'T LET THEM IN....and for the moment, neither should we!!!
I seen this morning a picture of the fort Hood murderer's business card on the site called "the obama files". The letters "soa" are on the card and it stands for soldier of allah it is reported. Barry and team will cover all the facts about this scumbag muslim.
HM,
"If I had been in your shoes I would have done the research instead of demanding proof from others."
You just don't get it. If you want to be taken seriously, then you have to be able to back up your own statements. It's not for others to make your points for you. When I challenged Bushmaster, he backed his comments up with not one, but several references and he did so cheerfully. That's how adults behave.
You, on the other hand, decided to poke your nose in and start accusing me of being (gasp!) a liberal. The truth is that I'd rather be confused with being a liberal than be seen as a dittohead such as you. You don't know anything about me and from the things you've written, I doubt that you know anything about libertarianism. I've earned the right to my political beliefs and they're none of your business.
R/s,
Here's a link to the business card Toolmaker talks about. At this moment, it's about three blog entries down.
Hopefully, this incident will help the services break free of the political correctness they've been forced to accept over the past two decades.
R/s,
It's now being reported on yahoo.com that this piece of crap muslim had ties to some of the 911 muslims, and recently was trying or did have contact with al qaeda. So the grieving families can blame our intelligence agencies for not arresting this guy a long time ago.
It was never a religion of peace. From it's very foundation it was spread through war. Out of political correctness we have tried to make it what it isn't. We are scared to call it what it is. Admitting the truth about Islam is too frightening with it's millions of growing followers around the globe. The faith will grow in this country unless we face the truth of what being Muslim is. Europe is already gone. Christians are becoming an endangered species there. A lot of atheists and muslims, but the Muslims breed. You do the math. Their future is dark.
Frank C - I personally believe that the war/wars are definitely over here, we just can't as yet hear the shooting.
Such a tragedy, how many more will we endure before we Americans do something? Yes I will take my share of the blame, but I am redoubling my efforts to rid of us these gun control laws that make Americans just targets anywhere we gather.
Here we have an Army post full of soldiers who could most likely handle firearms, but unarmed because of regulations set down by the protected class, yes many generals are protected and are politicians just as bad as any in Washington, they have their bodyguards.
These fine men and women, volunteers all, slaughtered at the hands of a Muslim who we allowed to enter the service, who told others of his feelings, who hollered "Allah Akbar" as he shot and wounded our brave but defenseless heroes. Who attended the same Mosque as one of the 911 conspirators. I am sick. I will always remember this event as an act of terrorism on our own American soil by a Muslim fanatic who kept his true feelings hidden until the right time.
Don't forget he bought one of the most expensive pistols out there just for the higher than normal magazine capacity, and he probably read the gun magazine hype about how effective the FN is, bought expensive extra hi cap magazines, bought the extremely expensive ammo to fill them all up. In other words he spent a lot of money preparing for this. Is that the act of a crazy man or part of a plan?
Now the liberal talking heads are trying to say he contracted Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from consoling those that had it. What a crock of BS. At least the credible medical community is calling BS on this. I happen to have PTSD myself from combat, not ashamed to admit it, but so far I haven't given it to any of the few others who I've told my experience to. If that was possible we would all have it from watching the evening news.
We have a new hero, the female officer who while taking rounds and being wounded by that fearsome 5.7 FN, returned fire and put his ass down. I bet she wasn't shooting a glorified 22 magnum. I hope she recovers fully and is given the accolades a true hero deserves but I'm sure as all real heroes she will just say she did what anyone would do. And all the rest of the soldiers and citizens on base who tended to the wounded, risking their lives for their brothers and sisters. No matter what we live in the greatest country and at least I can be proud of that.
The only punishment I can think of that is bad enough for this SOB is to be haunted every night by the wrong that he has done, by the spirits of those lives he has taken. There will be a few reading this who know what I mean. Unfortunately I think he believes he served Allah and what he did was righteous. He will certainly be a hero in the middle east and parts of Detroit and Chicago and other places.
God Bless America and our troops.
Tsk tsk, name calling again.
Your lack of understanding my statement should not get you in such a dither.
It's easy. Up on the top of your browser is a search box. Typing in "muslims advocate killing infidels" brings 37 thousand hits.
NO one is required to be an answer whore here. I said I had posted the information previously, and I did. Several months ago to be exact. More than once.
Obviously you were not around then. you may feel free to do some more name calling if you like but look elsewhere for a response.
HM
The news (ABC maybe) is reporting that the Fort Hood shooter had been under watch for months for alledgely trying to contact Al quida.....and the Govt did?????
The fact is: Either we kill all of them or they will kill all of us. Take up sides boy and girls (especally girls) as it will never end.
He was just misundersood and picked on.
This murdering muslim is out of the coma and talking, the family has retained a lawyer to represent him. I wonder if he is a muslim lawyer?
If the Muslim "faith" is peaceful then why don't they police themselves? Once, on '60 Minutes', several years ago, they interviewed Muslims of all sects, ages and socioeconomic status'. To the Muslim, all were in agreement of their support for the Palestinians' jihad against Israel and the rest of the "infidel" world.
They weren't aggressive themselves but willing for others to fight their fight. Until I see a concerted effort of the Muslim world to promote peace and share in the fight against Muslim extremists, ( I wont hold my breath ) they are a big problem for the safety of the free world.
There are, of course, exceptions. I have Muslim friends that have assimilated into our society and I applaud them. They have given up the "kill the infidel" thing and have become a member of free society.
When a society's identity is based wholly on it's religion, there will be war, not civilization.
I know there were NAZI members and sympathizers in the United States before WWII. Were the allowed to join the army? And if they were allowed to join were they allowed to express their views in the open like the Muslims are now.
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