1. What is a good gun to start with? My answer: an 870 or BT-99.

I would add 1100's and 390/391's to this list. Especially if they might be a little recoil sensitive.

2. How do I know when I need a "better gun"? My answer: You just will.

If they start with a good gun, they won't ever necessarily 'need' a better gun. My father shot the same 870TB for 40+ years.

3. Will a "better", ie. more expensive gun make me a better shooter? My answer: I don't know.

Only if it fits them better, which is more likely due to the added likelyhood of it having an adjustable comb, LOP, and/or rib.

1. Focus on an inexpensive gun but one that will permit shooting two shots - that means over/under or auto-loader. Reason? I've seen a considerable number of people that like pounding out singles but absolutely fall in love with wobble, 5 stand, sporting, and trap doubles. Best to have the ability to have two shots.

2. This usually relates to "Want a better gun." That may happen quite soon or not. Working on skills is better than changing guns 4 times a year.

3. Changing guns, whether "better" or just different, may make you a better shooter but you can't count on it. I prefer to have people try as many guns as they can arrange, borrow, test drive, etc. and wait for that one that will stand out as the gun of choice for the individual. This can't happen to most in the first month of shooting but after a year or more with a gun, a "better" one may be obvious.

Breakemall.....Bob Dodd

My friends keep buying "better" guns. They are definitely more expensive guns. I keep beating them. After shooting for a few decades I am more convinced than ever that it is not the gun that makes you a good shooter. If the gun shoots where you point it it will work as well as any other gun no matter what it cost. I have known several shooters recently that upgraded to expensive guns and their scores have actually dropped.

You are corret with these statements BD, and so are yours highflyer But, with the situation I have by changing from a Remington 870 to the 1100 for less kick my average has not changed that much. Could this be because both Guns shoot in a basic similar characteristic of eachother? 22 years ago I shot the 870 with an 88% @ the 24 yard line. With having to go to the 1100 I shoot the 1100 at 88% from a wheel chair @ the same yard line. 16's and the 870 (which I have semi retired) I shoot an average of 91% with the 1100 I shoot 93%. Just two birds difference. (Richinnameonly) I hope this makes sence!!!

I have seen so many shooters come and go in this sport. Most get bored and move on after a short time. Many of them have spent thousands on a gun. Fortunately for them you can get most of your money back with a shotgun.

No, RJ, I'd suggest that you score similarly because that may well be your level of skill, vision, physical ability, level of practice vs competition and so on. In other words, it ain't the gun. I certainly know my limitations and skills and it wouldn't make one teeny bit of difference if I spent $10,000 on a new gun or resorted to starting afresh with your Rem. 870. I'd learn to shoot either but doubt sincerely that I'd become "better" because I spent the money. Unless you are young enough, having the free time, having the necessary cash, and understanding family to practice like any of the big dogs, I reckon you and I will always hover around close-but-no-cigar at best.....breakemall.....Bob Dodd